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Ya'll act like Barrett hasn't built a rifle before..........laffin
Can't wait to see how these little gems shoot!
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Ya'll act like Barrett hasn't built a rifle before..........laffin
Can't wait to see how these little gems shoot! Amen... I don’t believe they will put out junk that no one wants...
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Tennessee, what’s the story? Is there a 223 or not? Mag length for the twist or not? Berger 80g VLD average COAL to kiss in two rifles is 2.408” Mag box is 2.436” So with that bullet you can load to kiss with room to spare in the mag and even some to spare for future throat erosion. I personally would not load to make contact with the bullet. When the chamber is precise and the throat is tight, I get great results with a little jump. Assuming the load has the best powder, density, primer to make consistent pressure and low velocity SD.... So where does it put things with the 88 grain ELD-M which actually needs the 1-7" twist? Honest question, but I'll understand completely if you don't wanna answer.
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Tennessee, what’s the story? Is there a 223 or not? Mag length for the twist or not? Berger 80g VLD average COAL to kiss in two rifles is 2.408” Mag box is 2.436” So with that bullet you can load to kiss with room to spare in the mag and even some to spare for future throat erosion. I personally would not load to make contact with the bullet. When the chamber is precise and the throat is tight, I get great results with a little jump. Assuming the load has the best powder, density, primer to make consistent pressure and low velocity SD.... So where does it put things with the 88 grain ELD-M which actually needs the 1-7" twist? Honest question, but I'll understand completely if you don't wanna answer. You just don’t wanna everyone to see your meme or gif or whatever the fugk you posted here already. Haha
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Ya'll act like Barrett hasn't built a rifle before..........laffin
Can't wait to see how these little gems shoot! Amen... I don’t believe they will put out junk that no one wants... I don’t think anyone is suggesting an FC will be junk, but it’s not optimized. From memory, I set the heel of a 75 Amax at the bottom of the neck and sent the dummy to PTG to make the reamer. The OAL started at 2.450 and is close to 2.470 now. I don’t have 80, 88’s or any Berger’s, what is the OAL with those bullets seated with the heel of the bullet at the bottom of the neck. And seated to the reported mag length less .050, will the ogive be below the neck?
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Tennessee, what’s the story? Is there a 223 or not? Mag length for the twist or not? Berger 80g VLD average COAL to kiss in two rifles is 2.408” Mag box is 2.436” So with that bullet you can load to kiss with room to spare in the mag and even some to spare for future throat erosion. I personally would not load to make contact with the bullet. When the chamber is precise and the throat is tight, I get great results with a little jump. Assuming the load has the best powder, density, primer to make consistent pressure and low velocity SD.... So where does it put things with the 88 grain ELD-M which actually needs the 1-7" twist? Honest question, but I'll understand completely if you don't wanna answer. I didnt try them. Did not have them to try. The chamber is a 223 Wylde (we call it 5.56 Match) so maybe you can draw some conclusions on depth to throat lead with different bullets. I accept that every conceivable combination that someone considers "ideal" may not be able to be achieved in a production rifle, but I think the rifle is great. I think it will be ideal for 99.5 percent of 223 shooters. I grabbed a case of 5.56 pressure spec Mk26, zeroed and blasted away. Super impressed with the precision and the ability of that 77gr to connect at various ranges with decent terminal effect.
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RPM,throat geometry and COAL are THE heartbeat of a rifle.
Astonishing that they can knock so much out of the park and then Gost Fhuqk the easy schit....shame. The 77's aren't even on the same fhuqking Planet as a 88.
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Ya'll act like Barrett hasn't built a rifle before..........laffin
Can't wait to see how these little gems shoot! Amen... I don’t believe they will put out junk that no one wants... I don’t think anyone is suggesting an FC will be junk, but it’s not optimized. From memory, I set the heel of a 75 Amax at the bottom of the neck and sent the dummy to PTG to make the reamer. The OAL started at 2.450 and is close to 2.470 now. I don’t have 80, 88’s or any Berger’s, what is the OAL with those bullets seated with the heel of the bullet at the bottom of the neck. And seated to the reported mag length less .050, will the ogive be below the neck? A 2.450" 75 'Max Square Smooch has always been a nice place to be,whether 223 or 223AI. I'll grab some 75/88 extrapolation pics here in a bit,after I finish buttoning rings up. Pains me to steal 10 MO/M)'s outta 'Horn's,but variable erector "latitude" mandates same. Hint..................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Kinda running and gunning...should prolly set up my Lightbox Studio this evening,but you get the idea. O/F R/P hull,with a 75 'Max above and 88 ELD below. 2.430",to allow a couple thousandths for grit/schit/weather. Hint. I'm suplized nobody has mentioned how much better suited the receiver's trite COAL would be,in 22 BR or 224 Grendel?!?(grin) 224 Grendel is an 88 Smooch from Delta 88,fed ala ASC's. Hint. I can grab 80gr Burger pics too. Hint..................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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80 Burger up top,75 'Max and 88 on bottom...if only obviously. Hint. Burger 80 VLD BC's are shy of 75 ELD BC's to boot and the 5 "free" grains of mass,is free velocity. Win/win/win. Hint...............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Thanks man, whats the length with the 88 seated to the bottom of the neck?
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Were I forced to "speculate".(grin) Hint...................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Back to Montucky shopping......
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The FC would be killier in 224/243 Grendel or 224/243 BR...but missed the boat,in 223.
I always wanted to try a Montucky myself.
Hint..............(grin)
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
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In fairness...the 7" RPM will help The Subsonic Crowd.
Hint............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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How much velocity would the BR and Grendel make outta the 18" barrel with 88's?
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Target was 1st qtr 2019. Target missed and no updates as of yet.
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