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#13823024 - 05/15/19 Re: 6.5 Creed for elk? [Re: Fotis]  
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Got purty cold.

LAUGHING!

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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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#13823221 - 05/15/19 Re: 6.5 Creed for elk? [Re: 16bore]  
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Originally Posted by 16bore
Would it be as good as a 270?

What ain't?

#13824714 - 05/16/19 Re: 6.5 Creed for elk? [Re: dvdegeorge]  
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Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
Not again....

yep...


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#13824819 - 05/16/19 Re: 6.5 Creed for elk? [Re: Fotis]  
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WhoreHey!,

Start a Thread...if/when you go Outdoors.

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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
#13824961 - 05/16/19 Re: 6.5 Creed for elk? [Re: Fotis]  
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#13825003 - 05/16/19 Re: 6.5 Creed for elk? [Re: Fotis]  
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Thankfully I don’t have to worry about these difficult questions. I have a 7mm-08 so I am good with anything to moose...

#13825032 - 05/16/19 Re: 6.5 Creed for elk? [Re: vabowhntr]  
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Originally Posted by vabowhntr
Thankfully I don’t have to worry about these difficult questions. I have a 7mm-08 so I am good with anything to moose...


No.....no you’re not, it can’t hang with moosies at 1,500 yards. I read on the internet that all moosies are shot beyond 1,000 yards.

I never seen one in Virginia though. Or a zoo. Maybe TV once.

#13825232 - 05/16/19 Re: 6.5 Creed for elk? [Re: Fotis]  
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My neighbor says he saw one, along with a mountain lion, in his backyard. He is prone to exaggerating, though.

Actually, several people claimed to have seen the mountain lion, not long after a big bobcat showed up. He was so old he had lost most of his markings. Had him at 20 yards in bow season but I wasn’t sure if the season was open on bobcats. It was. 😟

#13825929 - 05/16/19 Re: 6.5 Creed for elk? [Re: Big Stick]  
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Originally Posted by Big Stick
WhoreHey!,

Start a Thread...if/when you go Outdoors.

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At 30 days per month and your average of 7 posts per day, it seems like he spends approx 4 days longer every month outside than you do!

#13825978 - 05/16/19 Re: 6.5 Creed for elk? [Re: Bearded]  
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Originally Posted by Bearded
Originally Posted by Big Stick
WhoreHey!,

Start a Thread...if/when you go Outdoors.

Hint..................


JorgeI
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At 30 days per month and your average of 7 posts per day, it seems like he spends approx 4 days longer every month outside than you do!



LMAO........


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Bravo

#13826140 - 05/16/19 Re: 6.5 Creed for elk? [Re: Darryle]  
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Originally Posted by Darryle
Originally Posted by Fotis
I had an opinion on the matter and I asked you for yours evidently an erroneous move on my part. .


It was a loaded question from the start, the 6.5 Creed has a line, there is no straddling it, either you dislike it or you think it is the end all be all.

I have three 6.5 Creed rifles, 2 bolt and 1 AR, it has it's place and hopping around on a mountain side chasing elk is not one I would consider. I shot my last two elk with a Miller 300 Weatherby. When there are variables that you cannot control, going marginal on your caliber choice is not something a rational man would make.



How true! Seems to be a race to the bottom as too how little gun you can use! I too own a 6.5 Creedmoor and love the 270 Win and have killed elk with it, but................... I now use the 338 Win. When the chips are down at the end of the day, and I have that quartering away shot I never have to ask "is the 338 enough for elk". Practice with the 6.5 then bring enough gun! Why not?

#13828204 - 05/17/19 Re: 6.5 Creed for elk? [Re: Big Stick]  
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Originally Posted by Big Stick
Bullets matter wayyyyyyyyy more than headstamps. The 147/Kreedmire melding has accounted rather well on Mooseses,Elkeses,Bears,Sheeps,Caribouskis and Venisons...less anyone musing a regret or a change. Belts are losing their "luster".

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Love ya man, but ALL wild game is venisons, not just deer. grin


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A "creek" has water in it, a "crick" is what you get in your neck.
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#13828328 - 05/17/19 Re: 6.5 Creed for elk? [Re: Fotis]  
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The 6.5 Creedmoor is too small for elk.

The 6.5x55 is the minimum cartridge that can cleanly take any elk, at any distance, any quartering angle.

Except for the 257 Weatherby and 25-06. They will also kill elk. But you have to use magic bullets.

#13828578 - 05/17/19 Re: 6.5 Creed for elk? [Re: joelkdouglas]  
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Originally Posted by joelkdouglas
The 6.5 Creedmoor is too small for elk.

The 6.5x55 is the minimum cartridge that can cleanly take any elk, at any distance, any quartering angle.

Except for the 257 Weatherby and 25-06. They will also kill elk. But you have to use magic bullets.


.

Looking at Hornady factory loaded 140's and Nosler factory 140's are the same exact velocity in Creed Vs Swede

Unless I missed the sarcasm (entirely possible)


Also Q for Darryle with the Miller... Is David Miller still making rifles? He was popular in the late 90's, early 00's but I haven't heard much about him in 12-15 years. Thx

#13828803 - 05/17/19 Re: 6.5 Creed for elk? [Re: Darryle]  
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Originally Posted by Darryle
Originally Posted by Fotis
I had an opinion on the matter and I asked you for yours evidently an erroneous move on my part. .


It was a loaded question from the start, the 6.5 Creed has a line, there is no straddling it, either you dislike it or you think it is the end all be all.

I have three 6.5 Creed rifles, 2 bolt and 1 AR, it has it's place and hopping around on a mountain side chasing elk is not one I would consider. I shot my last two elk with a Miller 300 Weatherby. When there are variables that you cannot control, going marginal on your caliber choice is not something a rational man would make.



Nuts.

I know quite a few individuals that neither dislike the 6.5 CM nor think it is "the end all be all". You can put me in that camp as well.

Some people are not well informed enough to form an opinion, others are but don't come to a conclusion at either extreme. You can include me in that camp.

There is no doubt in my mind that almost every - if not every - big game animal I've taken ((antelope, mule deer and elk) would have fallen equally well to a .308 Win, or 7mm-08 or 6.5 CM. That doesn't mean I hunt with them and the only one I have is a couple of .308's. I have seen what a 6.5 CM can do on game, though, as a SIL has one.

Currently in the (very long) process of building another rifle. It will NOT be a 6.5 CM, but a 6.5 PRC is the probable choice as it is a long action. Had the 6.5 PRC not come along it would likely have been a 6,5-06 or my second 6.5-06AI.

Would I chase elk with a 6.5 CM. Yup, and not sweat the choice a bit. I've hunted them with a .44 Mag revolver, .30-30, .375 Win and .45-70 and would the 6.5 CM is a better choice than any of them IMHO.



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#13829185 - 05/17/19 Re: 6.5 Creed for elk? [Re: dSmith_45]  
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Originally Posted by dSmith_45
Originally Posted by joelkdouglas
The 6.5 Creedmoor is too small for elk.

The 6.5x55 is the minimum cartridge that can cleanly take any elk, at any distance, any quartering angle.

Except for the 257 Weatherby and 25-06. They will also kill elk. But you have to use magic bullets.


.

Looking at Hornady factory loaded 140's and Nosler factory 140's are the same exact velocity in Creed Vs Swede

Unless I missed the sarcasm (entirely possible)


Also Q for Darryle with the Miller... Is David Miller still making rifles? He was popular in the late 90's, early 00's but I haven't heard much about him in 12-15 years. Thx


I am thinking (hoping?) that this was indeed sarcasm. However, one can never tell.

#13829706 - 05/18/19 Re: 6.5 Creed for elk? [Re: dSmith_45]  
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Originally Posted by dSmith_45
Also Q for Darryle with the Miller... Is David Miller still making rifles? He was popular in the late 90's, early 00's but I haven't heard much about him in 12-15 years. Thx


I bought this rifle from a local dealer when he was getting out of the business. He used it on one safari and made me what I thought at the time was a smoking deal. At the time I think they were in the $9500 range for a complete rifle with optics and loaded ammo. No waiting many months for your turn, not saying isn't worth the wait, because it was.

I emailed the address I was given at the time to see if he had the load data for my rifle and it bounced back. I haven't heard anything from him or about him lately. The one time I did talk to him on the phone shortly after I bought the rifle, he was extremely courteous and gave me the info I was after, the load data, but I have since lost it. I have been using the Weatherby 200 gr Nosler load and it shoots better than I ever could. It's one of those rifles that if there is a once in a lifetime hunt on the radar it will be the one to go.


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#13829782 - 05/18/19 Re: 6.5 Creed for elk? [Re: Pahntr760]  
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Originally Posted by Pahntr760
Originally Posted by dSmith_45
Originally Posted by joelkdouglas
The 6.5 Creedmoor is too small for elk.

The 6.5x55 is the minimum cartridge that can cleanly take any elk, at any distance, any quartering angle.

Except for the 257 Weatherby and 25-06. They will also kill elk. But you have to use magic bullets.


.

Looking at Hornady factory loaded 140's and Nosler factory 140's are the same exact velocity in Creed Vs Swede

Unless I missed the sarcasm (entirely possible)


Also Q for Darryle with the Miller... Is David Miller still making rifles? He was popular in the late 90's, early 00's but I haven't heard much about him in 12-15 years. Thx


I am thinking (hoping?) that this was indeed sarcasm. However, one can never tell.


Pure sarcasm on that one fellas...


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#13830408 - 05/18/19 Re: 6.5 Creed for elk? [Re: Fotis]  
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6.5 Creedmore might be too much for elk. I was talking with a guide and he related a story for a client the year before who shot a large bull with his 6.5 Creedmore. Probably a little too far for the hunters skills, the round hit way back in the paunch, barely clipping the rear of a lung on the may out. The sucker still dropped right where it was standing. They didn't learn about the poor hit till they started dressing it, breaking it down. In the middle of this a large bear comes out of nowhere and chases them off the kill. They didn't want to shoot it so they backed off. The bear starts dragging the elk and keels over dead. The guide and client are beyond confused at this point. Use the sat phone to call the possum police who many hours later send an office out., sees no bullet holes in the bear , does a half assed necropsy, again finds no holes, takes some samples and gives the guide the green light to FO.
A couple weeks later he gets a call from the state about the case, the lab results are in. Estimated 700+ lb sow griz, dead of Creedmore poisoning.

I hear California has a bill pending to ban any and all Creedmoores, they've killed more condors than lead bullets ever did.

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#13830419 - 05/18/19 Re: 6.5 Creed for elk? [Re: cas6969]  
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Originally Posted by cas6969

I hear California has a bill pending to ban any and all Creedmoores, they've killed more condors than lead bullets ever did.


Wouldn't be the first dumbass idea coming out of California.


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#13830528 - 05/18/19 Re: 6.5 Creed for elk? [Re: Fotis]  
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California is filled with dumbass human beings from citizens, to local politicians, to state politicians, to federal politicians. They call themselves sophisticated, I say time is running out. BTW hopefully when actions and counter actions are filed they will spell “Creedmoor” correctly.

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