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Boomer,
$12.00 bucks an hour in Oregon is a high wage........ I suspect the real problem is all the employee's are stoned... it is Oregon after all... wink


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Originally Posted by irfubar
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$12.00 bucks an hour in Oregon is a high wage........ I suspect the real problem is all the employee's are stoned... it is Oregon after all... wink


Yeah, that reticle looks straight to me....Pass the blunt bru and stamp this scope gtg. 😂😎


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Originally Posted by shrapnel
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Not directed at anyone specifically but there sure are a lot of assumptions being made.


This is what has happened to America. Assuming and people piling on whether it is scopes or tires. At the end of the discussion, I will bet Leupold continues to sell thousands of scopes to people that aren’t on the Campfire and will thank the Campfire for it’s input.

If Leupold sells that many scopes that don’t work, you would think it would show up unilaterally through consumers. I haven’t had the problems that the Campfire has with Leupold, but I have switched almost entirely to Swarovski, so I can’t ad to the educated discussion.

Whether or not there is any change will remain to be seen. I believe this squeaky wheel will get greased. My guess is grease isn’t what the Campfire is looking for...



I highly doubt Doug who is a major distributor of optics would have posted a thread on Leupold without certain criteria being met.

1. He would have had to talk with Leupold directly first and my guess is the conversation was about why his order for Leupold scopes was dwindling.

2. Doug and Leupold would have had to reach an agreement for Doug to approach campfire members because yes he is a major distributor and major distributors don't just start random threads discussing who there in business with



It's more than obvious Leupold is having a serious problem and if they don't get it sorted there future is at stake.



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Yep, the optics forum never disappoints...

The others need to catch up...

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When is the gloss freaking black option coming back as a standard feature without having to pay $250 extra????????? Seriously!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Yep, the optics forum never disappoints...

The others need to catch up...

DF



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Sorry DF, couldn't help myself...... I am doin my best to get the other threads up to speed.... seem to be getting a little push back though...


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Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Yep, the optics forum never disappoints...

The others need to catch up...

DF



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Sorry DF, couldn't help myself...... I am doin my best to get the other threads up to speed.... seem to be getting a little push back though...

laugh

Well, as long as you trying... cool

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Originally Posted by Barney_Fife
When is the gloss freaking black option coming back as a standard feature without having to pay $250 extra????????? Seriously!!!!!!!!!!



Say you have your own business. And for each shiny widget sold, you sell 250 of the matte-finish version.
How long until you probably just say to hell with the shiny widgets? smile


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Originally Posted by SKane
Originally Posted by Barney_Fife
When is the gloss freaking black option coming back as a standard feature without having to pay $250 extra????????? Seriously!!!!!!!!!!



Say you have your own business. And for each shiny widget sold, you sell 250 of the matte-finish version.
How long until you probably just say to hell with the shiny widgets? smile


I can see that. But what about that dang wide duplex? Is it really what people wanted?

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Originally Posted by SKane
And for each shiny widget sold, you sell 250 of the matte-finish version.

I understand the widget theory, but for nearly 80 years Leupold sold a gloss version of their product(s) as a standard finish. For folks who have been loyal Leupold fanboys for a bunch of those years it's hard to swallow. I'm not asking for every scope on the line to have a no cost gloss option, but c'mon at least throw us a bone on a 2-7 or 3-9 in something.

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Originally Posted by Barney_Fife
Originally Posted by SKane
And for each shiny widget sold, you sell 250 of the matte-finish version.

I understand the widget theory, but for nearly 80 years Leupold sold a gloss version of their product(s) as a standard finish. For folks who have been loyal Leupold fanboys for a bunch of those years it's hard to swallow. I'm not asking for every scope on the line to have a no cost gloss option, but c'mon at least throw us a bone on a 2-7 or 3-9 in something.

What if they found out that the matte finish was cheaper to produce.

How much of a premium would you be willing to pay for gloss...

Just assuming...

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Originally Posted by Barney_Fife
Originally Posted by SKane
And for each shiny widget sold, you sell 250 of the matte-finish version.

I understand the widget theory, but for nearly 80 years Leupold sold a gloss version of their product(s) as a standard finish. For folks who have been loyal Leupold fanboys for a bunch of those years it's hard to swallow. I'm not asking for every scope on the line to have a no cost gloss option, but c'mon at least throw us a bone on a 2-7 or 3-9 in something.


That's not a bad idea.
But then there'd be grumbling because it's not offered in XX. laugh


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Originally Posted by SKane
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Originally Posted by SKane
And for each shiny widget sold, you sell 250 of the matte-finish version.

I understand the widget theory, but for nearly 80 years Leupold sold a gloss version of their product(s) as a standard finish. For folks who have been loyal Leupold fanboys for a bunch of those years it's hard to swallow. I'm not asking for every scope on the line to have a no cost gloss option, but c'mon at least throw us a bone on a 2-7 or 3-9 in something.


That's not a bad idea.
But then there'd be grumbling because it's not offered in XX. laugh

Yeah, this is the Optics Forum... laugh

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
What if they found out that the matte finish was cheaper to produce.

How much of a premium would you be willing to pay for gloss...

I have no doubt that the matte finish is cheaper to produce than the gloss. But...........technology has advanced quite a bit in say the last 20 years. Throw some powder coat on one or something - just make it shiny. The custom shop can make darn near any color you want, and they're all the same price as the gloss black finish that was the standard for so long. As for how much I'd pay extra for gloss??? Hmm.....not much if any and sure as heck not $250.

There's a market out there for someone willing to put forth the effort.

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Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by SKane
Originally Posted by Barney_Fife
When is the gloss freaking black option coming back as a standard feature without having to pay $250 extra????????? Seriously!!!!!!!!!!



Say you have your own business. And for each shiny widget sold, you sell 250 of the matte-finish version.
How long until you probably just say to hell with the shiny widgets? smile


I can see that. But what about that dang wide duplex? Is it really what people wanted?

In nine years of painstaking devotion to the forum, best I can recall there's been one guy who's said he likes it.... LOL


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Originally Posted by Trystan


I highly doubt Doug who is a major distributor of optics would have posted a thread on Leupold without certain criteria being met.

1. He would have had to talk with Leupold directly first and my guess is the conversation was about why his order for Leupold scopes was dwindling.

2. Doug and Leupold would have had to reach an agreement for Doug to approach campfire members because yes he is a major distributor and major distributors don't just start random threads discussing who there in business with



It's more than obvious Leupold is having a serious problem and if they don't get it sorted there future is at stake.



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Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by Trystan


I highly doubt Doug who is a major distributor of optics would have posted a thread on Leupold without certain criteria being met.

1. He would have had to talk with Leupold directly first and my guess is the conversation was about why his order for Leupold scopes was dwindling.

2. Doug and Leupold would have had to reach an agreement for Doug to approach campfire members because yes he is a major distributor and major distributors don't just start random threads discussing who there in business with



It's more than obvious Leupold is having a serious problem and if they don't get it sorted there future is at stake.



Trystan

You are truly a dumbphucqk.


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Originally Posted by 16bore
6x42, MQ reticle...make it fat for ‘boomer if you must.

FireDot MQ. LOL


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