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Leupold should have left it alone. They just lost more customers and made it worse.
Calling folks who shoot alot idiots for having issues with their scopes is not a good marketing strategy but that's what their marketing guy just said.... I have to agree. I have a bunch of Leupold scopes and mostly they have served me well for hunting. But the tracking is often inconsistent which can make zeroing a pain. They seem to have no interest in addressing this. I have an SWFA 10x on an accurate AR-15 and it has no such problems. They seem to have themselves convinced that there are no tracking issues. This is no way to get more customers among serious shooters.
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Password = goldring On next screen enter your name and email address Next screen will say Live Event is off air but there is a link on the right side of the screen to the archive.
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As a long time fan I have to say, this effort by Leupold to establish credibility was a self inflicted wound. Sad to see this happen.
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That’s a tough position for them to be in. If a video of them confessing that scopes didn’t track was recorded tonight how long do you think they’d be employed? I think they did what they could do, which was stress to call them and talk to them about issues.
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As a long time fan I have to say, this effort by Leupold to establish credibility was a self inflicted wound. Sad to see this happen. There's a lot of you brother.
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Success is found at the intersection of planning, hard work, and stubbornness.
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That’s a tough position for them to be in. If a video of them confessing that scopes didn’t track was recorded tonight how long do you think they’d be employed? I think they did what they could do, which was stress to call them and talk to them about issues. I would’ve been cool with them just listening to the problems were having and saying they’d look into them... they didn’t care about listening as much as telling us why there were no problems.
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I don't own a lot of Leupold stuff. I have a VX7 that's served me well thus far, but I set-and-forget it and don't dial it.
When they were planning to launch the VX6, it was supposed to come out in the spring. Makes sense for a hunting scope. I called. Yep, spring.
Then June. Then July, then September. I called several times to get an update because I was putting a rifle setup together and wanted a VX6 for it.
I got much of what we saw on that livestream in the personalized version on their sales/support line even way back then.
Finally I gave up and got the VX7 on a closeout from Midway.
As was said on the livestream by several members, I WANT to like Leupold. I was hoping to see something that made me feel better about them and their product.
I did not see anything that did that.
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I got the impression the Leupold gentlemen are so saturated with company doctrine that they just don't get it, nor will they until they leave the company and actually do some serious shooting without Leupold propaganda running in their veins. I've had over 30 Leupold scopes and over half of them shift point of impact when the variable power ring is turned to another setting. It's a shame, I'd love to love their products.
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Dang, I missed it!!! I didn't even know this went down until just now. Damn!! Being from Oregon, there are still a lot of people here that think Leupold is better than sliced bread. However, those people really don't shoot much, and they for damn sure don't dial and shoot further than point blank range. For some reason Leupold is convinced they don't have problems or they think they can just pull the wool over everyone's eyes. For those of us that shoot a lot, we know better. Generally when we have had multiple failures from Leupold or any other brand, we make the switch to a better product. By better I don't mean spending tons of money on glass either. SWFA is one that a lot of us go to because we know they offer reliable and accurate tracking with good solid internals. When we want to step up to a nice piece of glass with excellent tracking (like the SWFA), we look into Nightforce. It's just the way the cookie generally crumbles...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I absolutely love everything about the 6x42 except the reliability and the wide duplex. But, my failure rate over time of Leuopold scopes not holding zero to the point of moving 12" plus from shot-to-shot is probably 25-30 percent and none of them track. After fighting zero on a 6x42 after a long flight to Africa and using up 20 rounds to re-zero, I gave up on Leupolds and started voting elsewhere in the optics world with my money.
I bet I've had 50 Leupolds and love their features other than their quality is absolute junk---almost all of them. I hope they get it straightened out, but it would surprise me if they ever do.
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Oh well, at least y'all might get some special offers via email...
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After this fiasco, think I'll sell or throw away the Leupold products I have left, and never buy another.
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After this fiasco, think I'll sell or throw away the Leupold products I have left, and never buy another.
But they drop test them on an expensive machine.....
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
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After this fiasco, think I'll sell or throw away the Leupold products I have left, and never buy another.
Whoa big fella! Give me an addy and I’ll send a prepaid box you can toss all the shiny black ones in.
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My rural connection is wreaking havoc...I heard up to the point that they wanted to address tracking; there is no problem; they have lots of cool stuff downstairs to measure the intricacies without variables induced like a firearm. What’s the readers digest version after that?
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Wow, didn't see that coming.... LOL
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Holocaust Deniers, the ultimate perverted dipchits: Bristoe, TheRealHawkeye, stophel, Ghostinthemachine, anyone else?
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Rick and Doug,
I think we'd all appreciate hearing your thoughts on how that went.
Thanks,
Higgins Again.
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
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I'm hoping Rick is chewing some corporate ass right now and too busy to respond.
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
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Tracking is not a problem they have a really cool million dollar machine to check it............. To be fair what did you expect? ya we have a problem and we are working on it? never gonna happen
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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I found it interesting that the first slide used to address their 3rd point (I believe) was labeled "Myth #5 Leupold scopes don't track well at 100 yards", about 9:50 min. Clearly, 24HR live stream wasn't the first time they have addressed tracking. Prior audience required a slick power point presentation. Sounds like Form is correct, the questions been asked before, just not answered or the problem addressed. Wonder what were myths #1 to #4?
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