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Let us remember Leupold scopes starts at $199 while NF at $975. (Retail) . Is it realistic to expect the same quality?

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They have the same issues being reported with their expensive scopes.

I have been a Leupold user and supporter for some 50 years. I do not consider myself a Leupold fanboy by any means. Gear I use has to impress me and work the way I want it to, or I don't use it regardless of brand. So a lot of this is kind of disturbing. I do not discount some of the problems continually reported, just that I never have had any of them. That said I'm not a dial twister and long range shooter. I'm more likely to be more typical of the average shooter, and more atypical of the long range segment. I do have a very accurate 7 mm RM. Might have to buy a Leupold dial twister and see that side of the issue for myself.

I'm glad the ownership question did come up early on. That was probably an expected result, and is likely truthful. If your company does tens of millions of $$ in business every year, and you hold stock in said company, it makes no sense to commit suicide. I wonder if Leupold is looking for a leaker?

I was quite disappointed in the video. It was rather amateurish. I said in an earlier post the results were likely dependent on who Leupold sent to the party. Those are probably two pretty reliable and knowledgeable fellows. But good speakers they are not. They did not look real comfortable doing the dance. Way too many "you know's" and "and and-uh's. Not a good presentation at all. They did not appear to rank high enough in the corporate structure to carry the required weight. Specific questions were not responded to adequately. To much "we make good stuff" in the presentation. Not any dealing face up with issues.

Some video of actual production of the various lines from start to finish would be a nice addition to the website. Some good diagrams of interior construction in the specification and description of the various scopes too.

I will say the stuff they had did look pretty stout ( I would expect nothing else). That said maybe there is more of a need to tighten quality control on the various bits and pieces and add some scrutiny to assembly. Just because it is made of beryllium copper alloy does not mean it was made right and all fits together properly. Not rocket science to deduce that if it does not fit right it won't dial right.

That’s really well said...”You can bullschit the fans but not the players”

I’m stealing it...😬😎

I see a lot of comments similar to this one.

Guys- whether you dial or not, zero shift is real. I've seen it with several Leupolds, anywhere from 0.5-3 MOA shift between range sessions, between shots, between groups, etc. If you're not shooting small enough groups to notice a 0.5 or 1 MOA shift in POI, then you'll live in blissful ignorance, but not everyone is willing to overlook such a thing.

+1

That's a good one, to the point and true...

DF

BOOM!!!

Poorly done all-in-all. Lots of covering up the pile but leaving the stink.
I owned Leupolds for years and got rid of the last one about 15-18 years back. It had been mounted on a 'hard-kicking' 25-06 and then moved to an equally 'hard-kicking' 243. (<= that's sarcasm there) On both scopes I could get maybe 8-10 shots then the zero would float off. Sent it in and got it back saying they tightened something up. Still had the same problem. It was an older Vari-x III. Last one I ever owned.

I looked at the VX-5HD scopes a while back and opted to go elsewhere. I currently have scopes from Leica, Zeiss, Swarovski, Minox, Sig, Burris and Bushnell.

I listened to this again just now and made it about 27 minutes into it before I got tired of being talked down to. I'm rather disappointed in the whole thing. I was really hoping they would address the issues instead of just dodging. "We aren't going anywhere. We are going to continue making quality products." - made my BS meter go to about 11.

I do want to thank Doug and Rick for putting this together. I know they had NO control over how we were going to be treated. You gave them and us a chance, they screwed it up and totally missed the boat. Heck, they missed the dang river.

I wish Leupold luck in some day figuring this out. When or if, they do, they might go back to this video and this thread and see that this very well may have been the turning point that they missed.

For now, I'll stick with Doug and the scopes I have that work for me.

Thanks again to Doug and Rick for this attempt.

Looks like the video was taken down. I wish I could have watched it.

Doug, thanks for doing this. Very nice of you to attempt this.

I recently bought the first scoped rifle I've had in a few years as I had been shooting iron sights. I was pretty set on a VX-5HD, but I found this place and another forum. I also read alot of Form's posts. I ended up with a different rifle and scope that I originally intended. I just wanted something that worked. I really feel like I got that. It's a shame, because I really try to buy American made when I can. I want something that works first.

And all made in China...

The flat brimmed hat & tat's were a nice touch.... hahahahaha ....... duuude

All Leupold had to do was read any number of threads archived on the 24HCF. There’s no excuse for them not knowing what they were getting into.




Well put and from a perspective Leupold should understand—epistemological...





LOL




IT WAS ONLY THREE TIMES...

BOOM!!!

..Just the kind of mustaches one would imagine wrapped around a field-to-table Elk-Ahuna Burger.

Works for Vortex! What a farce that presentation was. That's being nice about it.

Leupold is a lifestyle brand...


SMFH.

The lord of the rings scope maker sure showed their true colors.


Admit nothing...
Deny everything....
Make counteraccusations....

Anybody that seen that fiasco and thinks otherwise is smoking crack....

You would have ta have some real heavy duty blinders on to think that leupold is a trust worthy company...........

They were real quick to start their presentation, defending the story about family board members being a bunch of snowflakes regarding military contracts, their controversy about making scopes used to kill people.

I don't think that info appeared out of nowhere, developed in a vacuum. Ya just can't make that kinda stuff up. Where there's smoke...

I wasn't impressed with their demeanor, appearance, attitude or presentation. They were definitely talking down to us, IMO

Turned out just about like we suspected.

I do appreciate Doug and those who at least tried.

DF