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IF...it "works".(Hint)


Keep an AR an AR and one is in GOOD hands. Get "cute" and deviate...then ALL bets are off.

The Pistol Caliber Bullschit is akin to Women's LIB. Simply a fhuqktard emotion,less merit. ALL is compromised on the platform and such things DO effect "reliability". Keep your poosy,here's a rifle for YOUR protection.

I've YET to visit a house,where a Murderer gets a "pass",due to the blueprint. HINT.

The M4 is THE constant and should be a TAUGHT Discipline. To waiver,interjects mind numbing STUPID fhuqking "possibilities" and to linger is a GREATER disservice. HINT.

None of this schit is "difficult",let alone subject to "debate".

Hint.................

You’re still alive in this scenario? Then you win.

See how easy this is?

Let's take this 20mm cannon to 22 LR discussion another step. What about the FN 5.7 x 28? I also notice some of the AR pistol manufacturers offer a braced pistol in 5.7 x 28? I know nothing about this round except it was the choice of the muslim terrorist at Ft. Hood.

https://www.cmmginc.com/product/pistol-banshee-300-mk57-5-7-x-28mm/

Proficiency can't be purchased.

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Laughin' here........................

MM

The ONLY reason it's funny,is because she's doing her best.

Bless her heart.

Laughing!..............

If you can afford enough 5.7x28 to become proficient (2,000 rounds), then more power to you.

Another of the advantages of the 5.56 is cheap practice ammo. And it’s available everywhere.

Needs a bayonet.

And 40 acres to turn around...

I noticed the cheapest you could get it was 38 cents a shot for FMJ. I don't own one. However some smaller framed people might be able to become more proficient with them as they do not recoil as much. I suppose becoming proficient has something to do with your recoil tolerance but again usually I am wrong

This whole “223 penetrates through walls” thing died 20 years ago. The reason that everyone went away from the 9mm, 10mm, and 45 sub guns to the 5.56mm carbine indoors is because 223’s penetrate LESS through walls. Beyond the fact that “over penetration” worry’s are almost entirely baseless (find how many times rounds went through a bad guy and hit an innocent.....), versus rounds not penetrating deep enough to reach vitals- relatively common. People suggesting varmint billets for the 223/5.56mm need to educate themselves.


Make life easy-

M4 platform
Aimpoint red dot
Surefire flash light
Good mags
Federal Fusion






Extremely narrow wound channels, about the same as a 22 mag. I haven’t used the 5.7mm other than on the range, but I have seen the results from multiple shootings and like the MP7’s 4.6mm round- it’s a one mag per one person deal... preferably in the face.


Both the 5.7mm and 4.6mm are poor choices for use against humans for the vast majority of needs. One can get the same thing with less effort with a 22WMR.

sadly this is what I seem to have colt 6920, pmags, 62 grain fusion or 64 grain gold dot, aimpoint, streamlight, but that does not stop me from enjoying the illuminated discussions here. I always thought the 5.7 x 28 was about the same as a 22 magnum but rabid fans made me afraid to say so. OTOH the recoil is light as I have shot one as well.

I think Montana Marine said it best about the 10-22.

Boys decided one day to test some buckshot on a broadhead target. It was a two foot thick styrofoam 4x4' block against the barn. In short, the buckshot traveled thru the styrofoam, thru the barn wall and then out the opposite barn wall across the driveway to points unknown.

The pellets that did not exit the off-wall were embedded in it after going thru both sides of a large antique white porcelain counter scale.

They complained about the recoil from the 6 1/2# 870. I was not amused.

Tomk, that would be one reason I don't care for buckshot, particularly the larger sizes. It penetrates far better than most imagine, and this case far more than is necessary. If compelled to use large shot I'd take #2 or BB, maybe...just maybe....#4 buck....in the 2-3/4" style.

you need to beware Digital, there will be some that say if you don't bring enough gun or the right size buckshot you will not have to worry about how much hearing damage you get or how much sheet rock you will shooting thru. OTOH my childhood friend and I shot large pine tree's down with 12 guage shotguns and bird shot at close ranges, well almost contact ranges.

Good one! Mind if I use it?

Jimmy,

We the pine trees actively attacking you? It not, interesting but irrelevant to the discussion.

Well, I was attacked by a pine not long ago. It did not end well for the tree.

No need to ask, have at it.