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What ever the persons mental state, it always boils down to ease of access and rapid fire capability. As to statistics since the early 2000's when these shootings amounted to around one a year, it has steadily risen to more than 3 or 4 a year. And it would seem to parallel to the lifting of the assult rifle ban in 2004. Number of people killed in each incident has also increased along these same lines.

Phil

It will probably survive .... but not as you and I know it (unless RBG meets her maker SOONER rather than later AND Trump is able to get a strict constructionist - conservative appointed to replace her.) Keep an eye on California, New York and now Washington as the test beds on just how far the 2nd. Amendment can be chipped away and twisted .... until it becomes almost meaningless.

I don’t know about the right to bare arms and wear short sleeves, but the Right to Bear Arms has be going on for a long, long time...

https://www.encyclopedia.com/reference/energy...and.../history-right-bear-arms
“The right of the individual to keep and use weapons has a long tradition in Western civilization. The Greek philosopher Aristotle (384–322 B.C.) wrote in Politics that ownership of weapons was necessary for true citizenship and participation in the political system. By contrast, another Greek philosopher, Plato (428–348 B.C.), wrote in the Republic that he believed in a monarchy with few liberties and saw the disarming of the populace as essential to the maintenance of an orderly and autocratic system.”

As a practitioner of the law, perhaps you would look at the statement as given, was in response to another's post? Not a stand alone declaration of fact? In that, the Right to defense is older than the paper it's written upon.

grey whatever, you are a citiot.
that's not mispelled

Depends on "We The People".

The Bible predicts a time when all the nations will come under a single, very evil government. For that to happen, our constitution, particularly the bill of rights, will have to disappear. We don't know when it will happen, of course, and people have been trying to figure out when for centuries. We can't know when, but we can recognize conditions that will have to happen for it to occur. If enough of these shootings occur, even conservatives will start to demand that the 2d be eliminated.

If most of these nut cases are video games addicts, we can't lay the blame on Trump. It's Bill Gates' fault.

The 2nd amendment supported by the 9th amendment
Should be rock fugging solid.


But gawd forbid if the Liberal Socialist Democrats get all 3 branches of the federal goverment for a full 4yrs and god forbid for a consecutive 8

And then a bunch of libtard leaning states assist in ratifying the constitution.

This is a foreseeable possibilty.
The liberal Socialist Democrat voting base is being born and growing daily on the welfare and entitlement way of life.
Then throw in carte blanche citizenship for illegal aliens if they can do it.

This is why it is important to get like minded friends and family out to vote who dont participate in voting.

Conservative voter apathy is what is killing this country also....

Anyone else notice that prior to this big push of the leftist disarmament agenda that these types of rifles were almost never used for crimes?
Less than .03% of violent crimes involved semi auto rifles, IIRC. That's 3 semiautomatic rifles in every 100 thousand violent crimes!
But as the government moves ever closer to socialism, the very rifles the government fears in private hands "suddenly" became used in more and more shootings to kill more and more people!
Doesn't this make you scratch your head just a little bit?
Sometimes a few people have to be sacrificed in order for things to move forward. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and a host of other dictators realized this.
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And it seems most of em are fugging liberal Socialist Democrats offspring, aka fugged up millennials who think they need to be handed schit their entire life.
People of your mindset are a bane to this nation.

Go find a strong tree branch about 10 ft up and grease up a rope and do the country a minuscule favor and fugging hang yourself .

i agree with that

Time for a little levity....

It is only a matter of when, not if, till the Second Amendment will be rendered void. It may not be in my lifetime, I'm 69, but sooner or later it is going to happen.

The only thing that I can see that would prevent it would be a civil war where our side comes out the winner, and a new government capable of being in power for many generations would see that it is protected. Or maybe, an asteroid hits earth and in the aftermath, things are so bad, that a gun is the only way one can survive.

At any rate, the Second is living on borrowed time, and each day I believe there are fewer people willing to fight in order to protect it, and to be honest, I'm not even sure that matters.

Keep in mind, though, that to ratify, it's 1 vote per state. ID and WY, with around 2.5 million people between them, can outvote ultra liberal CA by 2 to 1. It takes 75% of the states to ratify so only 13 small red states can block it. Remember the ill-fated Equal Rights Amendment.

I have more faith in the left's inability to convince 38 states to pass the 28th Amendment overturning the 2nd.

so, tell us dumphuck, if we had all these "assault rifles" BEFORE then ban and nothing happened and FBI statistics clearly show these rifles are used in less than 1% of the murders, why is it we didn't have anywhere this many before even though we had all these "assault rifles" available ? And here's another hint, GENIUS, the only thing that changed was the flash suppressor and bayonet lug and the MILLIONS of magazines available were still legal and yet nothing. Could it be something else you think you f u c kin g MORON? ''Here you got Greygaggerm maybe this will clue you in,,,'

HINT FOR A DUMBFUC K

Unfortunately, I think you're absolutely correct. We've lost our education system long ago. Few people bother with teaching their kids anything as far as American Values, and the schools are nearly forbidden to teach them.
Kids are more indoctrinated than taught, even to the point where obeying the government is more important than obeying their parents. We're not far off from where the kids will be reporting on their parents.
I see no way of turning it around short of a civil war. I pray to God that our government can be turned around and the country I love can be salvaged from the leftist without gunfire, but I don't believe it can be.
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If that is true, and I hope it turns out to be but I'm not yet convinced it will, it will be helped along by the acceleration done by Tarrant and the shooters he inspired.

This water the White Man is in has been slowly heating for many years. If it continued along the course the Boomer generation set it to we'd never seen anyone rise up to stop it. The only way out of this is to put the gas to it.

Yes, irrelevant to you.