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So, what's the solution, JoeBob?

I don’t think there is one. The NRA is on a death ride. I think it’s done. Our country isn’t really set up to survive such an intensely partisan environment where naked politics without the restraint of morality, ethics, or allegiance to constitutional values prevails over everything.

This is the $64M question...

Let us know when the Sky hits your tinfoil hat.

This is exactly what the present NRA leadership wants you to believe.

Dark picture for sure.

I've been predicting civil war for 20 years. I don't see any way to avoid it, or some kind of realignment of the States---if we should be so fortunate.

Not much on foresight, are ya?

Let us know when you wake the frick up, come out from under your rock, and see what is being done in this country right in front of your nose.

They just tried to, and nearly did, take down the president of the United States with a completely made up horse schit scheme and you say that it is tinfoil hat territory to believe that the NRA will be politically targeted?

Just shuffle on off to the retirement home. The America you think that you know doesn’t exist anymore if it ever did.

Sure there is...

Bump for the Greatest Helicopter Tour Operator Ever!

I don't see the NRA falling into a dark abyss I see a bright light at the end of a dark tunnel..

You'd make a lot of folks feel better if you can explain how that comes to pass.

This discussion boils down to basics: WLP and the BOD did some [bleep] that is unethical in the extreme, and they have not played their cards right. Now they are bringing down the NRA.

What you old Boomers can't grasp is that THIS IS A GOOD THING. All the NRA has been doing is playing ball with the gun grabbers and living high on the hog from your support.

Lobbying groups can and have held sway in DC, but as has been noted, that political paradigm is over. And I hate to tell you this, but the money is fake, has been fake for over a century, and is currently being counterfeited by a private entity to hand out to its friends. That is why this battle was never about lobbying.

I'll keep on saying it: YOU PROTECT AND DEFEND AND ASSERT YOUR RIGHTS. There is no group, no lobby, no government entity that ever has, or ever will, do this for you.

Stop pretending that reality does not exist. It isn't helping.

New honest leadership strong on 2nd A. rights and open financials,

Without the NRA we are doomed. With the NRA we will continue the good fight.

2020 looking good.

The NRA is distinctly compromised with WLP, but they maintain an air of fear among many because of their history of very effective hit piece ads. This will pass and the NRA will continue. But the sooner WLP leaves the stage the sooner it will fade into vague memories.

That's speculation and doesn't answer any of the three questions directed your way.

The NRA has been losing support of the "no compromise" portion of the membership for years. This latest scandal may or may not make that worse. The hardcore 2nd Amendment types I'd guess are a lot like myself...the main thing they want from the NRA is opposition to ALL gun control. The shenanigans of LaPierre and others are nothing compared to the damage done from stuff like the Red Flag video.

So y'all can whine all you want, but smart and serious gun owners give money to organizations that oppose gun control, not support or even advocate it.

I’m not telling you that I’m pleased with everything they do, that you should be, or that you should even support them. Do as you like. I’m just telling you what’s going to happen.

The NRA is far from dead and will pull through this mess and be even stronger - but not without some serious clean up. They are under new kinds of attacks and this is a tough time for the NRA, mainly because the BOD has not been strongly focused on the correct core values and most important efforts for the organization. Whatever W. .LaPierre has been doing is not new or much different than in the past, and the BOD probably has not paid enough attention to that in the overall sense, but that is not the major issue. He is a convenient target right now.and will need to be gone. That will happen in due time.

As for the BOD drift - due mainly to laxity? Maybe. Dissension and competing interests among Board members ? Probably. Is there a need to re-focus on core values and efforts? Absolutely yes.

Don't think for a moment that the attacks and pressures on the NRA are the "same old stuff" from the past - not so - this is a new political game by the opponents and it is difficult. The reworked NRA BOD has to be a bunch more serious and focused on our needs. . It is my view that the NRA is the very best hope for future protection of our 2nd Amendment rights. I do not disparage those who disagree, but would like to see and understand their proposed better solution. For those who are inclined to cut and run, no longer support the NRA and do something else - now is a near-perfect opportunity. This is no time to be distracted by the small stuff.

It’s lawfare. And on the state levels it can be devastating. New York is a one party state. It has resources indistinguishable from the federal government as far as being able to prosecute a case like this.

This goes beyond the NRA. If political prosecutions become the norm, it changes the way things are done everywhere.

it's fair to say that money flowed like wine to many washington dc lobby groups, not just the nra.

but money coming in faster than it can be spent is a powerful aphrodisiac so to speak.

now, some real challenges are on the horizon. the city folks are organizing.

and by that, i mean mom's who don't want their sons shot dead.

not by police, not by illegal guns, not by gang violence.

so, the landscape is changing. how will lobbyists adjust?

what do the gun lobby members want for their buck?