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https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/458907-mormon-leaders-ban-guns-in-churchThe Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has tightened rules on carrying guns in church, barring the practice after long discouraging it, according to the Associated Press. The new policy was rolled out the first week of August and first distributed to Mormon leaders in Texas, where a new law allows licensed handgun owners to carry their guns in places of worship. But it will be distributed to local leaders in other states as well, according to church spokesman Daniel Woodruff. “Churches are dedicated for the worship of God and as havens from the cares and concerns of the world,” the new policy states. “With the exception of current law enforcement officers, the carrying of lethal weapons on church property, concealed or otherwise, is prohibited.” The new rules also come after a Mormon church was the site of a shooting in July 2018 in Fallon, Nev., where the shooter opened fire and killed one man and wounded another. Matthew Bowman, the Howard W. Hunter Chair in Mormon Studies at Claremont Graduate University in California, told the AP the move reflects how the church has changed from its Western roots. “It is illustrative of the church’s slow evolution away from being a largely Western rural church which it has been for a long, long time toward a more cosmopolitan, international organization,” he said. A majority of the church’s members currently live outside the U.S., many in nations that do not have a culture of gun ownership like the U.S. “In any organization, you have people who might desire to protect or take the law into their own hands, and I think the church in this policy is saying, ‘Please don’t. Church is a place of peace,’” Scott Gordon, president of the volunteer organization FairMormon, told the AP.
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They're just giving the crazy's a new venue. Peace is relative to strength and defense. Fools abound.
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Mormon church is asking for problems.
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Another gun-free zone was badly needed.
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Please don’t. Church is a place of peace,’” Scott Gordon, president of the volunteer organization FairMormon, told the AP." Accord to reality, apparently not, considering the recent shooting. All they have done is handicap the legal legal use of a gun.
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Gun free zones = target rich environment
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I explained to someone in my church that there is probably 4 guns in our church every Sunday. They could not comprehend that, which I understand because my town is safer than Mayberry. We don't even have an Otis.
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My church from when I a kid now has several armed men scattered purposefully through tactical locations every service. It is a conscious plan. About half are off duty cops. Nobody would notice. Another acquaintance is a retired big city detective who served as head of security for a mega church some would recognize. Again, as unobtrusive as possible.
A gun free zone is an invitation. Am frankly astounded at the Mormon announcement.
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I'm sure that someone stopping a mass-murderer in an LDS temple would get excommunicated . . . not !
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Yeah....they are just begging for a disaster of epic proportions...
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"The new rules also come after a Mormon church was the site of a shooting in July 2018 in Fallon, Nev., where the shooter opened fire and killed one man and wounded another." "and I think the church in this policy is saying, ‘Please don’t. Church is a place of peace" Makes perfect sense...........
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If a shooter tried to shoot up our church, the peace would resume in 10 seconds. The shooter likely wouldn't be resting in peace, however. It would be way too hot for that.
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Guess I can never enter... ya know my hands are lethal weapons. Bunch of idiots.
Of course if you believe, then you know the world will end again and that we are a day closer every day, but one would almost have to assume we are further past the halfway mark by a long shot IMHO. Which really is not a bad thing at all. But those that have to live through all of those times....
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It is called "concealed carry" for a reason. And church is a perfect place to practice it. Maybe with the exception of the baptismal bathtub.
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Might as well just start painting bullseyes over the altars.
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I'm sure that someone stopping a mass-murderer in an LDS temple would get excommunicated . . . not !
You might be surprised.
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Gun free zones = target rich environment Gun free target zone. DF
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I think I would carry first and worry about church policy later. I mean, when will it be discovered? Hopefully after the carrier has stopped an active shooter event. Not much to say or do in retaliation for carrying in church after a successful resolution.
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What are the stones in the hat called? That's some crazy chit!
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