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Mixed according to instructions, applied as "best practices", how the hell can this stuff kill people if it won't kill blackberries and wild roses?
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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I’ve sprayed enough Roundup to kill an army if it is indeed “bad”. So have about all my farmer buddies here. We are in a heavy agricultural area where I live. Zero problems. And yes, we grow a large acreage of Roundup ready crops. No problems with farmers nor their neighbors.
From what I understand the plaintiff brought suit in one of the most liberal friendly areas, which virtually guaranteed a very favorable decision by the jury.
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I have sprayed a lot of it over the years and have never thought of drinking it.
I think that folks who were sick thought it might be a good payout.
Still use it today and will tomorrow.
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Follow the money... I too, have sprayed gly and Paraquat since the 70's
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Mixed according to instructions, applied as "best practices", how the hell can this stuff kill people if it won't kill blackberries and wild roses? Might be that like any other herbicide there are things it will and won't kill. I hear the skepticism you fellas put forth, but suggest that if you crawl deeply into the topic and examine the fine details, you might have a second thought or two. Will suggest further that if you trust Monsanto I have some fine real estate just east of Freeport in the Bahamas I'd like to sell.
I am..........disturbed.
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Crossbow will kill it. That's my go to for broadleafs.
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Mixed according to instructions, applied as "best practices", how the hell can this stuff kill people if it won't kill blackberries and wild roses? Get some of the stuff marketed to kill poison ivy and try it. You could even mix it in with your roundup if you have any left. Should cover more bases.
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I only depend on glyphostphate for controlling bladed grasses and weeds.
Mix in some 2,4D together and get the double tap effect.
Squirt in a bottle of Dawn dishwashing liquid to really give an extra 'ooze' factor.
And what the hell, pour in some cypermethrin or permethrin and knock out chiggers or associated annoying arthropods too. Might as well
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Follow the money... I too, have sprayed gly and Paraquat since the 70's Ditto.... No worries here.
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I only depend on glyphostphate for controlling bladed grasses and weeds.
Mix in some 2,4D together and get the double tap effect. I've done that too - works very well.
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Killing plants is not always straight forward. Couple of weeks ago I did an experiment and sprayed some plain full strength white vinegar from the grocery store on different things. It scorched some unwanted bladed grass just as good as roundup. Other stuff like vines.....I think it fertilized them.
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Mixed according to instructions, applied as "best practices", how the hell can this stuff kill people if it won't kill blackberries and wild roses? Might be that like any other herbicide there are things it will and won't kill. I hear the skepticism you fellas put forth, but suggest that if you crawl deeply into the topic and examine the fine details, you might have a second thought or two. Will suggest further that if you trust Monsanto I have some fine real estate just east of Freeport in the Bahamas I'd like to sell. Mr DD, you sound to me like a learned man. Enjoy the hurricane when it gets there (almost said "she", but that's no longer the standard case) Geno
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I would think it’s a joke. I’ve sprayed all the chemicals for 25 years and before that grew up on a farm where the sprayer was a car with the body cut off. Tank and booms put on. All the farmers up here did the same. No I did not follow safety directions and most people don’t. I was careful with the bug killers because they would sometimes be dead when you made the next pass. No case has proven this product causes cancer they just got a McDonald’s hot coffee jury in suburbs and went with it. Ed k
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Crossbow will kill it. That's my go to for broadleafs. Thanks for the tip, I'll try some. Instruction sheet says Roundup is supposed to work on blackberries if applied in late summer, well, not that I can see. But, so far, the blackberries have survived a D-7, an excavator, and fire. I'm convinced the wild roses would survive a tactical nuclear strike.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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Equating an herbicides ability to kill a certain species to it’s long term toxicity to mammals is kinda foolish.
The whole Monsanto debacle has been brought to you by the same folks that believe marijuana can cure every illness on the planet, so what does that tell you?
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Mixed according to instructions, applied as "best practices", how the hell can this stuff kill people if it won't kill blackberries and wild roses? Might be that like any other herbicide there are things it will and won't kill. I hear the skepticism you fellas put forth, but suggest that if you crawl deeply into the topic and examine the fine details, you might have a second thought or two. Will suggest further that if you trust Monsanto I have some fine real estate just east of Freeport in the Bahamas I'd like to sell. Mr DD, you sound to me like a learned man. Enjoy the hurricane when it gets there (almost said "she", but that's no longer the standard case) Geno Geno, I was concerned about Dorian certainly, but in response to an email sent to her HQ wherein I threatened to spray Roundup in her eye she asked for a raincheck.
I am..........disturbed.
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Crossbow will kill it. That's my go to for broadleafs. Crossbow totally killed Himalaya blackberries for me this summer. I am still amazed at how dead it killed them. I wore mask and latex gloves and stayed upwind with a back pack tank sprayer on a patch about 75 yards by 3 yards plus some spot bushes.
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Plants are tougher than humans. As a species we are fairly weak.
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Roundup is my go to for poison ivy and other unwanted plants. No issues. Mainly the ivy. Knocked it dead here.
Im always tellin’ the kids, "dammmmmmn!!!! I can feel the non-Hodgkins lymphoma soaking in!" As I spray away! Yeah they chuckle.
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