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Google 'Bourbon tree' and you will see Henry McKenna as close to Evan Williams as any other. Same distillery and same mashbill.

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Originally Posted by Snowwolfe
Originally Posted by Fireball2
So I gotta ask, and I'm not being my usual smartass self.

For you guys that are shopping for these different priced bourbons and are picking it apart down to a gnats ass, are you hoping to save a little on each bottle of bourbon and at the end of the year go on a cruise with the wifey on the savings or what? Do you seriously drink so much that you have to buy budget booze? Why not buy the booze you like the most and drink occasionally or in moderation, and really enjoy good spirits? To me it'd be like drinking cheap beer in a can by the half case rather than 1 or 2 craft beers that are really good.

I guess I equate budget booze shopping with alcoholism. Maybe I'm way off base.


Your off base, I been to some "blind" bourbon taste events before and seen time after time cheap liquor beat high end stuff a bunch of times. That's not to say some high end stuff is not worth the money. But it pays to experiment and is fun in the process. This is how I discovered George Dickel 12, $21 a bottle.

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Originally Posted by Snowwolfe
Originally Posted by Fireball2
So I gotta ask, and I'm not being my usual smartass self.

For you guys that are shopping for these different priced bourbons and are picking it apart down to a gnats ass, are you hoping to save a little on each bottle of bourbon and at the end of the year go on a cruise with the wifey on the savings or what? Do you seriously drink so much that you have to buy budget booze? Why not buy the booze you like the most and drink occasionally or in moderation, and really enjoy good spirits? To me it'd be like drinking cheap beer in a can by the half case rather than 1 or 2 craft beers that are really good.

I guess I equate budget booze shopping with alcoholism. Maybe I'm way off base.


Your off base, I been to some "blind" bourbon taste events before and seen time after time cheap liquor beat high end stuff a bunch of times. That's not to say some high end stuff is not worth the money. But it pays to experiment and is fun in the process. This is how I discovered George Dickel 12, $21 a bottle.

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Have you tried Evan white label (bonded)?

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Have you tried Evan white label (bonded)?

Yes, its not my first choice, but is drinkable

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Originally Posted by TimberRunner
I'd like to line up 5 bourbons and ask everyone to tell me how much they cost. No one could get close.


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Originally Posted by TimberRunner
Turkey 101 is surprising good budget bourbon

Its generally what I drink, but williams single has such a pleasant flavor. It sucks it went away here.

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Thanks for the choices guys. A couple i havent tried yet. Despise Elijah Craig. Everyones tastes are different I guess

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I haven’t acquired a taste for real heavy bourbons yet so I’m just thrilled with Buffalo Trace myself. I find it very enjoyable.


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Originally Posted by JimHnSTL
I haven’t acquired a taste for real heavy bourbons yet so I’m just thrilled with Buffalo Trace myself. I find it very enjoyable.



Whats a "real heavy bourbon"?


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I live in Bourbon country. It was invented here. But I don't drink it.

The smoothest brown corn based liquor I've ever drank is Royal Canadian Mist blended whiskey.

It's smooth enough to cause you to make a damn fool of yourself if you don't watchit.

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A case of Canadian Mist is a safe wedding gift for the reception.


The snobs will either go home or drink it and have fun.


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All in all,...I think sticking good corn liquor in a charred oak barrel and forgetting about it for 8 years will ruin it.

The best corn liquor I've ever had was some old school, no sugar added, moonshine that probably hit about 120 proof. It was oily and you could really taste the corn in it.

It was made like they used to make it back before processed sugar was widely available.

Corn was used to make liquor back in the old days because it had a high sugar content. That's what started the whole "corn liquor" thing.

Very few people today have tasted moonshine that hasn't been sparked with processed sugar.

The old style stuff is very good. But it's expensive to make and it's labor intensive. I used to know an old boy who would make up a few gallons of "old style" whiskey for the holiday season every year. He passed around a little of it to friends.

It's very different than what most people think of as moonshine.

Back in the day,..the old time moonshiners derisively referred to the new type of moonshine as "sugar whisker" after processed sugar became available.

If you buy moonshine today,...it's going to be sugar whiskey.

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After processed sugar became available?

Like 500 years ago?


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
After processed sugar became available?

Like 500 years ago?


It's been around a long time,...but it was a luxury item in 17th century America,...and many other places.

Making whiskey out of sugar was cost prohibitive for a long time.

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Ever read the book Angela's Ashes?

Its from this century.

"Go easy on the sugar! We're not millionaires!"

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Processed sugar was rationed as recently as WW2 in America.

My mom told me about how her uncle bought a 5lb bag on the black market and hid it in his closet. She was threatened with an ass whuppin' if she told anybody about it.

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Originally Posted by Snowwolfe
Originally Posted by Fireball2
So I gotta ask, and I'm not being my usual smartass self.

For you guys that are shopping for these different priced bourbons and are picking it apart down to a gnats ass, are you hoping to save a little on each bottle of bourbon and at the end of the year go on a cruise with the wifey on the savings or what? Do you seriously drink so much that you have to buy budget booze? Why not buy the booze you like the most and drink occasionally or in moderation, and really enjoy good spirits? To me it'd be like drinking cheap beer in a can by the half case rather than 1 or 2 craft beers that are really good.

I guess I equate budget booze shopping with alcoholism. Maybe I'm way off base.


Your off base, I been to some "blind" bourbon taste events before and seen time after time cheap liquor beat high end stuff a bunch of times. That's not to say some high end stuff is not worth the money. But it pays to experiment and is fun in the process. This is how I discovered George Dickel 12, $21 a bottle.


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Sugar is a crazy, crazy commodity.


I suppose the varieties of corn used have changed too.


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Originally Posted by TimberRunner
Turkey 101 is surprising good budget bourbon


Before breaking out of deepest, darkest Appalachia, I considered Wild Turkey to be high-end schitt. Nowadays if I can't decide on a bourbon, I almost always default to WT.




Originally Posted by Fireball2
So I gotta ask, and I'm not being my usual smartass self.

For you guys that are shopping for these different priced bourbons and are picking it apart down to a gnats ass, are you hoping to save a little on each bottle of bourbon and at the end of the year go on a cruise with the wifey on the savings or what? Do you seriously drink so much that you have to buy budget booze? Why not buy the booze you like the most and drink occasionally or in moderation, and really enjoy good spirits? To me it'd be like drinking cheap beer in a can by the half case rather than 1 or 2 craft beers that are really good.

I guess I equate budget booze shopping with alcoholism. Maybe I'm way off base.



Nope, not off base at all. All the drunks I know buy crap to feed their addiction and turn their nose up at quality.





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All in all,...I think sticking good corn liquor in a charred oak barrel and forgetting about it for 8 years will ruin it.

The best corn liquor I've ever had was some old school, no sugar added, moonshine that probably hit about 120 proof. It was oily and you could really taste the corn in it.

It was made like they used to make it back before processed sugar was widely available.

Corn was used to make liquor back in the old days because it had a high sugar content. That's what started the whole "corn liquor" thing.

Very few people today have tasted moonshine that hasn't been sparked with processed sugar.

The old style stuff is very good. But it's expensive to make and it's labor intensive. I used to know an old boy who would make up a few gallons of "old style" whiskey for the holiday season every year. He passed around a little of it to friends.

It's very different than what most people think of as moonshine.

Back in the day,..the old time moonshiners derisively referred to the new type of moonshine as "sugar whisker" after processed sugar became available.

If you buy moonshine today,...it's going to be sugar whiskey.



A friend of mine is Pennsylvania Dutch and speaks of pure corn whiskey, especially the "corn" taste that's masked in commercial whiskey and white liquor sold as "moonshine". I would like to know more about this old-school method since I plan on getting one of these:

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Guess I'm the only one that ever drank Weller&Weller.


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