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Yep.

It appears some here do not know that not everyone who claims to be a Mason really is one. Years ago when Masons (as well as other fraternal organizations) were much more popular, and were duly accorded a certain amount of respect within the community on that basis, sometimes men applied and in some cases were accepted and went through part of the learning, but were later found to be of undesirable character and were kicked out. Some of these went on to form what are referred to as clandestine lodges, and in turn these attracted other like-minded men. Masons are strongly admonished to have nothing to do with them, and this is part of the reason for the secrecy; to recognize such posers. Again, not everyone who claims to be a Mason actually is one.

Never thought about that before.

Impersonating a Mason...

The Catholic thing and the Freemasons remind me back in the 1990's I was making my way back East from the Western Pacific, I just finished 6 months on a Tuna Boat flying helicopters. There was a Catholic Priest collecting donations for an Orphanage that he ran. So I gave him 20 bucks. He notices my ring, and just asked what lodge! I told him, he told me that he gets the most support from the Lodges in the Valley. I was not surprised. I talked with him for a bit I had a long wait for my connections. Then again I remember back when the Soviet Union was still around, they had a burn victim they could not deal with it was closer to Anchorage so the kid was flown there, they could not handle it either so then sent him to the burn center of the Shiners Hospital in Galveston, TX they took care of the child and put up the parents and made sure they had some walking around money took almost a year. At the time if you were a Freemason in Russia you got to prison. That had to be about 34 or 35 years ago. Most of the talk you hear about the Fraternity is bullshit, pay no mind.

My great grandfather was a Mason - He laid every brick in town!

That's the good kind of mason.

i like their jars

Do they still lay bricks?

No. But they make some people (kooks) schit them.

The blue ones are really nice.

There is no secret Masonic handshake, they greet each other and shake hands in public. If you observe the handshake there is a subtle difference in the manner in which the hand is grasped, that's all there is to it. My father was a Mason and I had the opportunity to watch him shake hands with brother Masons.

Some of the most honorable men I've ever met and been associated with were/are Masons. If they are an indication of the rest of the membership, it can't be a bad organization.

I roll my eyes and take the negative stuff said about them with a grain of salt. Their detractors are like the rest of us who aren't Masons and don't have intimate knowledge that comes from being a member..........they (and we) don't really know schitt about them.

Most of the people I know that speak negatively of them are simple-minded, minimally-educated, have limited life experience, buy easily into crack-pot conspiracy theories and demonstrate poor critical thinking skills.

What???? You haven't played Assassin's Creed?? That whole storyline is about the Knights Templar and the Freemasons.






That same horseschitt line gets slung around about Mormons too.

The secrecy kept me away.

I was never "asked" to become a mason.
I have had a couple Masons bring up the topic by identifying
themselves as such.
Leaving the stage set for me to as questions.
Questions being my thing, I ask a lot.
One guy gave me an explanatory video to watch.

But, the questions they couldnt answer...


A deacon in our church has been a Mason forever,
And is a guy who I truly trust, I have often wanted to
have a good long chat with him, never got around to it.

One thing for certain,
There aren't any underemployed Masons around here.
You see a guy who has managed to get multiple jobs,
that anyone else would die to get...usually a Mason.
And not a good example of the group.

1. The fact that deacons, ministers, etc. are Masons is irrelevant to the question of whether or not it's a good organization for a Christian to join. I had an inlaw who was a "Worshipful Master" which is blasphemy. Matthew 23:10 says, "Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ."

2. I've had several relatives/aquaintances who were Masons; all fairly high up. One felt that because he was a Mason he could flaunt the law and apparently got away with it. Many in law enforcement/the justice system are Masons and apparently will let deviations from the law slide if it's a fellow Mason. This applies to even some serious crimes. Of the six Masons I've known (I've probably known more than that but didn't know they were Masons) I would consider four good citizens and two a bit obnoxious and arrogant. I was once asked by one who obviously was a Mason if I was a "trav'lin man."

3. You can pretty much pay your way to the 32nd degree. You have to be elected to the 33rd degree. At the 32nd degree, you may be given the unabridged edition of "Morals and Dogma" by Albert Pike. At the 33rd degree you will be given that book. If you read that book, you will find that the honored deity is Lucifer also known in the real Holy Scriptures as the Devil and Satan. The abridged edition of that book given to the lower degrees of Masonry doesn't disclose all one should know about Masonry before joining.

4. You generally aren't asked if you want to be a Mason. Usually you have to request to join. I have little doubt I could have joined if I had wanted to.

Supposedly Masonry is "an organization with secrets" and "not a secret organization." No, it's a secret organization. Supposedly it's not a religion. No, it is a religion with a deity, temples, literature, liturgy and regular meetings just like any other religious denomination.

For those wishing to know more, I'd recommend "Masonry Beyond the Light" by William Schnoebelen.

So, it really is Satanic?

I wouldn’t have said so if it weren’t true.

Oh yeah.


Ever notice how there are no orphans or stray dogs around a Masonic Temple?


Yep.....used in sacrifices.


Common knowledge.

Like this? ^

So says TRH...who once ran a long, long thread on here claiming that Masons worship the Devil...