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Re: Had no idea VLD's acted like this [Re: Godogs57] #14273268 11/11/19
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Re: Had no idea VLD's acted like this [Re: aalf] #14273674 11/11/19
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Originally Posted by aalf
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the punching through bone part is what excited me

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Re: Had no idea VLD's acted like this [Re: aalf] #14273792 11/11/19
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Originally Posted by aalf
Originally Posted by irfubar
the punching through bone part is what excited me

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Okay, that made me laugh.


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Re: Had no idea VLD's acted like this [Re: Mule Deer] #14273795 11/11/19
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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Godogs,

One of the "problems" with Bergers (as I have pointed out many times here, and in print, since 2007, when I first got to field-test them extensively) is that they don't act like the conventional idea of expanding bullet performance most hunters have been indoctrinated with for the last several decades--which generally involves weight-retention, penetration, "perfect mushrooms", etc. The fact that they penetrate at least 2-3" before "grenading" is thus often lost on many hunters.

But if the impact velocity is low enough--and the bullet doesn't hit, say, even a rib--Bergers can indeed end up looking like conventional expanding bullets. This tends to happen more at longer ranges. Whether or not it matters is another question.


I have shot most of the VLD’s from 80gr 22cal to 300gr 338cal and agree with you with one exception, I have a lot (lot#1393) of 30cal 210gr VLD’s that will grenade on impact at any range or velocity from my 300WM up to 1300yards......want to try some??? I still have several hundred

Re: Had no idea VLD's acted like this [Re: aalf] #14274218 11/12/19
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Originally Posted by aalf
Originally Posted by irfubar
the punching through bone part is what excited me

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Haha!! 😆😆


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Re: Had no idea VLD's acted like this [Re: Judman] #14274385 11/12/19
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Originally Posted by Judman
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the punching through bone part is what excited me

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Haha!! 😆😆


aalf got me good..... lesson learned, not only is he a deadly milk jug assassin, his wit & humor is off the charts.... smile


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Re: Had no idea VLD's acted like this [Re: Godogs57] #14274716 11/12/19
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Several years ago, after reading of success with VLD's, I decided to give the Bergers a try from my 25-06, and came away very impressed!

Loaded the 115's up to a faster-than-expected mv of 3190 fps via Retumbo. Shot nice tight groups with them. Zeroed the 6x Leupold at 300 yards and went hunting. Three mule deer, four shots over two years. First mule deer was hit on the spine, and needed a finishing shot when I got to him.

I shot one young mule deer buck at about 175 yards, through the shoulder blade. Instant collapse & death. Recovered the spent bullet just under the hide on the other side, it had gone through BOTH scapula, and also destroyed the lungs. Wow! Danged thing was mushroomed, but more of a pancake look to it than shown here. I carefully set it on a rock, to take with me after I quartered up the deer for the pack out.

Oooops. Left it there. Sigh. The other Bergers I recovered looked like a varmint bullet - not much left - I think one weighed 33 grains after starting at 115. Still, all the deer died, and quickly!

Perhaps I'll give those VLD's another try one of these days. It's been a while since I hunted with them, still have a few boxes sitting around.

Guy

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So you’re driving a Chevy.



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Re: Had no idea VLD's acted like this [Re: Godogs57] #14275032 11/12/19
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F-150, Wont make that mistake again with a Chevy

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Re: Had no idea VLD's acted like this [Re: Godogs57] #14275339 11/12/19
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Originally Posted by Godogs57
F-150, Wont make that mistake again with a Chevy


Does the F-150 have a GPS to find the airport? Asking for a friend. 😬😎


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Re: Had no idea VLD's acted like this [Re: Cascade] #14275838 11/12/19
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Originally Posted by Cascade
Several years ago, after reading of success with VLD's, I decided to give the Bergers a try from my 25-06, and came away very impressed!

Loaded the 115's up to a faster-than-expected mv of 3190 fps via Retumbo. Shot nice tight groups with them. Zeroed the 6x Leupold at 300 yards and went hunting. Three mule deer, four shots over two years. First mule deer was hit on the spine, and needed a finishing shot when I got to him.

I shot one young mule deer buck at about 175 yards, through the shoulder blade. Instant collapse & death. Recovered the spent bullet just under the hide on the other side, it had gone through BOTH scapula, and also destroyed the lungs. Wow! Danged thing was mushroomed, but more of a pancake look to it than shown here. I carefully set it on a rock, to take with me after I quartered up the deer for the pack out.

Oooops. Left it there. Sigh. The other Bergers I recovered looked like a varmint bullet - not much left - I think one weighed 33 grains after starting at 115. Still, all the deer died, and quickly!

Perhaps I'll give those VLD's another try one of these days. It's been a while since I hunted with them, still have a few boxes sitting around.

Guy


Im tempted myself. I ran 220 Scenars this year in my 300. Nothing volunteered for the bullet test though.


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Re: Had no idea VLD's acted like this [Re: Beaver10] #14276045 11/12/19
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Originally Posted by Beaver10
Originally Posted by Godogs57
F-150, Wont make that mistake again with a Chevy


Does the F-150 have a GPS to find the airport? Asking for a friend. 😬😎


Uv korse.


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Re: Had no idea VLD's acted like this [Re: boatanchor] #14276067 11/12/19
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boatanchor,

Thanks for your post! That seems a little weird to me as well.

The 210 VLD happens to be the most accurate bullet in my present .300 Winchester Magnum, which I mainly use to break test-scopes with a load that gets 2950 or so. However, have not used it on game, so dunno how my lot works!

Will check the lot # of my batch, and if it's different, would happily buy some of yours to test.


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Re: Had no idea VLD's acted like this [Re: Godogs57] #14278019 11/13/19
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Mule Deer, I gave not so accurate info previously.
The Berger 210gr VLD’s that are grenades are lot#1091 not lot#1393 as I stated earlier, lot#1393 is fine. I only have 13 bullets left of lot#1091, don’t know if that is enough for you to test??? If it is PM me your mailing address and I will send them to you.

Re: Had no idea VLD's acted like this [Re: boatanchor] #14278873 11/13/19
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Originally Posted by boatanchor
Mule Deer, I gave not so accurate info previously.
The Berger 210gr VLD’s that are grenades are lot#1091 not lot#1393 as I stated earlier, lot#1393 is fine. I only have 13 bullets left of lot#1091, don’t know if that is enough for you to test??? If it is PM me your mailing address and I will send them to you.

I shoot the 190’s in my 300 Win mag. Statistically small sample on deer but they act more like a bomb than a grenade. Wicked bullets


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