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So you have alot of good paying jobs out there in the Tennesee boonies ? The cost of living and taxes really low ? No special job opportunities I am aware of. The cost of living and taxes are reasonable. Taxes are high here in NY. Not real sure about the comparative cost of living otherwise except I know gasoline and heating fuel is comparatively high. Gas prices make a big difference over the course of a year when you live rural. Especially up here where you really better have 4 wheel drive if you expect to make it to work regularly in the winter. We've got a foot of snow on the ground here right now. Heating costs are also a major expense this far North. My dad and mother inlaw both have heating bills of about 4k per year for their 2 story 1800-2000 sq ft homes.
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So you have alot of good paying jobs out there in the Tennesee boonies ? The cost of living and taxes really low ? No special job opportunities I am aware of. The cost of living and taxes are reasonable. Taxes are high here in NY. Not real sure about the compative cost of living otherwise except I know gasoline and heating fuel is comparatively high. Gas prices make a big difference over the course of a year when you live rural. Heating costs are also a major expense this far North. My dad and mother inlaw both have heating bills of about 4k per year for their 2 story 1800-2000 sq ft homes. No doubt.
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So you have alot of good paying jobs out there in the Tennesee boonies ? The cost of living and taxes really low ? It depends on location as to house size. And not necessarily the local economy. I live in a county that is well below average for income in Pa. Not bottom, maybe bottom third. But, Baltimore and DC are 150 miles away. The interstate West from both comes right through here. Another just south of us. It's hard for local people to afford property In the rural areas. The city Richard Noggins all want "[bleep] livin". Those raised rural are now forced to live in town.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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So you have alot of good paying jobs out there in the Tennesee boonies ? The cost of living and taxes really low ? It depends on location as to house size. And not necessarily the local economy. I live in a county that is well below average for income in Pa. Not bottom, maybe bottom third. But, Baltimore and DC are 150 miles away. The interstate West from both comes right through here. Another just south of us. It's hard for local people to afford property In the rural areas. The city Richard Noggins all want "[bleep] livin". Those raised rural are now forced to live in town. We've got the same thing here with douche bags from NYC/LI. They're the ones buying up land and building the big, lavish retirement/vacation homes and driving the cost of real estate out of reach of the locals.
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Sure, but what it the median size? A fancier development with a goodly number of large new homes will skew the average more than a little in a small town. I'd imagine the new developments and those fancy "estates" are driving the average up all across America. And one of the reasons larger homes are still affordable for "many".................................. cheap labor! Folks I know in the construction trades basically haven't had a "raise" for a number of years. But the Pardee type developers keep selling bigger houses. Geno
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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Whenever I go to a city I am always amazed at the grown, middle aged men working low paying jobs in retail and other similar jobs. I give them lots of credit for working, but it’s curious to me why and how they ended up working a job that probably pays little more than minimum wage.
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So you have alot of good paying jobs out there in the Tennesee boonies ? The cost of living and taxes really low ? It depends on location as to house size. And not necessarily the local economy. I live in a county that is well below average for income in Pa. Not bottom, maybe bottom third. But, Baltimore and DC are 150 miles away. The interstate West from both comes right through here. Another just south of us. It's hard for local people to afford property In the rural areas. The city Richard Noggins all want "[bleep] livin". Those raised rural are now forced to live in town. We've got the same thing here with douche bags from NYC/LI. They're the ones buying up land and building the big, lavish retirement/vacation homes and driving the cost of real estate out of reach of the locals. I thought you said your neighbors were living in trailers.
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If that is so, how is it that our standard of living keeps increasing? Homes keep getting larger, cars keep getting nicer, etc. It sure hasn't for everybody, which is why there are 5-10 used car dealerships for every new. Don't know how it is everywhere but about a third of the homes on the back roads around here are mobile homes. Big, nice retirement/vacation mobile homes?
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I live in North Arkansas a poor area of the country. Lots of houses being built that are 50 percent bigger than what the older wealthy people live in. Most places want more workers than what are available. Some low wage Some high. Economy is growing here. Home values in my town are up for sure.
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So you have alot of good paying jobs out there in the Tennesee boonies ? The cost of living and taxes really low ? It depends on location as to house size. And not necessarily the local economy. I live in a county that is well below average for income in Pa. Not bottom, maybe bottom third. But, Baltimore and DC are 150 miles away. The interstate West from both comes right through here. Another just south of us. It's hard for local people to afford property In the rural areas. The city Richard Noggins all want "[bleep] livin". Those raised rural are now forced to live in town. We've got the same thing here with douche bags from NYC/LI. They're the ones buying up land and building the big, lavish retirement/vacation homes and driving the cost of real estate out of reach of the locals. I thought you said your neighbors were living in trailers. As a matter of fact there are 5 residences on my road.. 3 are single wides, one double wide and one old house. All local people except for the double wide. They retired here from the city. The couple that lives in the house inherited it from the husbands parents. There is a big, beautiful new house on top of the mountain across the valley. That one was built as a vacation home for NYC residents. They bought the whole damn mountain top {several hundred acres} and I've heard it cost 1.5 million to build the house. They're usually there for two weeks in the summer and for one week after Christmas.
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Globalization ..... it's good for stocks, not so much for American workers. Bingo... Been dealing with it in IT for the past 27 years...
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There would be a lot more high paying jobs if there were people to fill them. Programmers, engineers, data analysts, there’s hundreds of thousands of jobs out there, just waiting for someone to do the work.
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If you've got the brains to go through a difficult college major, then a good-paying job is a foregone conclusion.
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New construction is getting smaller in my experience. Higher finishes are winning over higher square footage.
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The size of houses isn't really a good indicator of much. How many people do you know who are "house rich" but would have to file for bankruptcy if they missed half dozen paychecks. A much better indicator is how much savings and investments a person has, and we know from numerous news stories that it's not much.
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That is what the Dumbocrats want, most of us doing menial work for a few rich people, like in China. The fact is, there's a lot of menial work that has to be done. Every farmer needs weed hoers and cow milkers. Every factory needs assembly line mental robots. Every office building needs janitors. Every construction crew needs clean up men and hod carriers. every store needs checkers and stockers. They can't assign highly paid professionals to do that kind of work and make any money. It's a pipe dream to think that every job will pay high wages. That can't happen in the real world.
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New construction is getting smaller in my experience. Higher finishes are winning over higher square footage. +1. There's one builder here in the Detroit area that has that market cornered. Infinity Homes specializes in subs where the houses are 1400-2200sf but nicely constructed. Face it, families are getting smaller so most people don't need a really big house, other than to impress people that they don't even know.
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Bedrooms are for sleeping, not entertaining. Formal dining and living rooms are out. Soaking tubs are a thing of the past. I’ve seen a slew of newly remodeled apartments and there’s not a single bath tub in any of them. The kitchens, on the other hand, are stellar.
It’s almost like the amount of food you get on your plate at a restaurant. It’s usually enough for two, but easy to sell for $15 because you feel like you’re “getting your moneys worth” They don’t give a schit if you eat it or throw it away.
And while I’m bitching, I don’t need my glass filled up after every sip, then a “to go” cup when I leave.
Someone tell Bloomberg it ain’t the Big Gulps. Seriously, 30oz of soda with a meal??
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Oh....forgot to mention, every doublewide has a whirlpool tub. That should tell you something.....
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There is no way the average size house around here is 2600. Maybe in my neighborhood, but not in general. When you add in property taxes and insurance, SoFlo is not cheap.
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