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The Bidens DO need to be investigated! there is a very long list of (mostly Democrats) that need to be investigated and indicted and if we can't introduce them to a rope, at least lock them up for the rest of their lives.....they are treasonous!.....at the least
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No it's not, and I won't read your fake news. President Trump was doing his job! You can't impeach him for doing his job. If it were up to me, Ukraine would not get any money from us, ever.
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An Honest Discussion of Impeachment On 24hr campfire? You poor pilgrim...
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You always use radical left wing biased and fake sources, " An honest discussion" the irony is lost on you when you keep quoting lies and falsehoods
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"Not a crime but impeachable." There is the BS.
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Again, no one is asserting we should not investigate our foreign enemies. This impeachment is about Trump asking our enemies to investigate domestic political rivals.
No,...Trump was asking Ukraine to investigate Ukranians who participated with Biden's corruption. What is it that makes leftists such liars? Well, there are multiple sources that say Bidens' names were omitted from the transcript, but it's hard to argue with this: Trump saying it himself that the Bidens were a topic in the phone call. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPORF1rZU2wSaying as much does not make me a leftist or a liar. More BS. No multiple anything. Your hero Vindman already testified to the accuracy of the call transcript under oath. You like making schitt up, don’t you. I've not made anything up. I've only referenced facts. It's become quite clear most people here are very uncomfortable with them. Why don’t you address Vindman’s testimony he’s a fact witness who was on the call and testified on behalf of Dems to the accuracy of the transcript, so did Morrison his boss who was on the call. No one on the call disputes the transcript. Your still peddling BS.
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Again, no one is asserting we should not investigate our foreign enemies. This impeachment is about Trump asking our enemies to investigate domestic political rivals.
No,...Trump was asking Ukraine to investigate Ukranians who participated with Biden's corruption. What is it that makes leftists such liars? Well, there are multiple sources that say Bidens' names were omitted from the transcript, but it's hard to argue with this: Trump saying it himself that the Bidens were a topic in the phone call. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPORF1rZU2wSaying as much does not make me a leftist or a liar. The *real* issue is why you feel the need to humiliate yourself by getting on a forum full of conservatively minded people and spewing this nonsense. Find the right pill for that. It's embarrassing to witness. Outnumbered, certainly, but not humiliated. I've not gone out on any limbs, just referenced facts from solid sources, even Fox if you consider them solid. I said in my second post way back that I don't expect this to be productive. I started this thread out of disgust for the tone happening in D.C.. I've become more aware for the basis of which . . . fear of 'our guy' losing. If you still think Trump is the best guy for the job, I can respect that. I'm okay with him staying in office. But not providing some amount of oversight that the constitution mandates . . . is dangerous to the future of our country. My hope is that we can hold our elected officials to some level of accountability to the oaths they swear. I believe I've brought enough to the table for folks to chew on and rest my case. Have a good weekend, folks.
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Again, no one is asserting we should not investigate our foreign enemies. This impeachment is about Trump asking our enemies to investigate domestic political rivals.
No,...Trump was asking Ukraine to investigate Ukranians who participated with Biden's corruption. What is it that makes leftists such liars? Well, there are multiple sources that say Bidens' names were omitted from the transcript, but it's hard to argue with this: Trump saying it himself that the Bidens were a topic in the phone call. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPORF1rZU2wSaying as much does not make me a leftist or a liar. More BS. No multiple anything. Your hero Vindman already testified to the accuracy of the call transcript under oath. You like making schitt up, don’t you. I've not made anything up. I've only referenced facts. It's become quite clear most people here are very uncomfortable with them. Why don’t you address Vindman’s testimony he’s a fact witness who was on the call and testified on behalf of Dems to the accuracy of the transcript, so did Morrison his boss who was on the call. No one on the call disputes the transcript. Your still peddling BS. Because I concluded the testimony wasn't conclusive one way or another and wanted to keep the discussion to the things we knew for a fact.
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You always use radical left wing biased and fake sources, " An honest discussion" the irony is lost on you when you keep quoting lies and falsehoods Fox news is radical left wing? I never referenced CNN anywhere. Alright, I do have to go.
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Again, no one is asserting we should not investigate our foreign enemies. This impeachment is about Trump asking our enemies to investigate domestic political rivals.
No,...Trump was asking Ukraine to investigate Ukranians who participated with Biden's corruption. What is it that makes leftists such liars? Well, there are multiple sources that say Bidens' names were omitted from the transcript, but it's hard to argue with this: Trump saying it himself that the Bidens were a topic in the phone call. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPORF1rZU2wSaying as much does not make me a leftist or a liar. More BS. No multiple anything. Your hero Vindman already testified to the accuracy of the call transcript under oath. You like making schitt up, don’t you. I've not made anything up. I've only referenced facts. It's become quite clear most people here are very uncomfortable with them. Why don’t you address Vindman’s testimony he’s a fact witness who was on the call and testified on behalf of Dems to the accuracy of the transcript, so did Morrison his boss who was on the call. No one on the call disputes the transcript. Your still peddling BS. Because I concluded the testimony wasn't conclusive one way or another and wanted to keep the discussion to the things we knew for a fact. What the hell are you talking about. Vindman, Morrison and another women who works for VP Pence were on the call and testified under oath that the call record presented by the President was accurate. Those are fact witnesses, what's not conclusive about that?
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[quote=PaulBarnard][quote=akmtnrunner][quote=ribka]Hillary Clinton is running in 2020? Thats news to me
[quote=akmtnrunner][quote=ribka]Well -documented millions of dollars in bribes from Russia, China and the Ukraine given to the Clintons and Bidens during the Obama administration who refused to investigate. Now we know that the FBI, CIA and Dept of State are corrupt organizations, Based on the IG report, that repeatedly submitted false documents and held back exculpatory information to protect Biden and the Clintons.
Clear that any educated American citizen understands why Trump needed to initiate an investigation of our enemies bribing our publicly elected officials. Pretty dang simple
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Yet, factually correct. I've yet to see any counter facts. Only insults and mischaracterizations. The fact is that Trump quip was not a serious call for an investigation. It was a damn joke. The fact is only the intellectually dishonest or the painfully dumb would assert that it was anything other than a damn wisecrack. Which camp are you in?
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I never thought of the possibility that Jeff Obama had a brother here on the fire...........
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I never thought of the possibility that Jeff Obama had a brother here on the fire........... Very well could be a JellO puppet, sounds like him....
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Because I concluded the testimony wasn't conclusive one way or another and wanted to keep the discussion to the things we knew for a fact.
You wouldn't recognize a fact if it jumped up and bloodied your nose. Your gullibility is astounding...assuming you are being honest, of course. I assume nothing about you, but I do recognize naivete.
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Hillary Clinton is running in 2020? Thats news to me Well -documented millions of dollars in bribes from Russia, China and the Ukraine given to the Clintons and Bidens during the Obama administration who refused to investigate. Now we know that the FBI, CIA and Dept of State are corrupt organizations, Based on the IG report, that repeatedly submitted false documents and held back exculpatory information to protect Biden and the Clintons. Clear that any educated American citizen understands why Trump needed to initiate an investigation of our enemies bribing our publicly elected officials. Pretty dang simple [b][/b]
Because it constitutes abuse of power when it comes from the President.
Biden engaged in massive abuse of power when he started taking kickbacks from Ukraine through his son. Investigating Biden's political corruption isn't an abuse of power. How it's done matters. That is the key here that I have been saying all along. Not so fast. https://www.factcheck.org/2019/12/video-trumps-claims-on-ig-report-and-russia-investigation/Again, no one is asserting we should not investigate our foreign enemies. This impeachment is about Trump asking our enemies to investigate domestic political rivals. He called on Russian to investigate her back in 2016, when she was running against him, in the presidential election. Try to follow along. That, itself was not impeachable as he wasn't sitting president (and it's not part of this impeachment case), though it certainly raised some eyebrows and established a track record for that behavior. Holy Fuggg, You're an IDIOT...
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An Honest Discussion of Impeachment On 24hr campfire? You poor pilgrim... Well Brad, when a LYING LIBERAL TROLL uses the word "honest" in his origional post- That is pretty much a joke right there.
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Hillary Clinton is running in 2020? Thats news to me Well -documented millions of dollars in bribes from Russia, China and the Ukraine given to the Clintons and Bidens during the Obama administration who refused to investigate. Now we know that the FBI, CIA and Dept of State are corrupt organizations, Based on the IG report, that repeatedly submitted false documents and held back exculpatory information to protect Biden and the Clintons. Clear that any educated American citizen understands why Trump needed to initiate an investigation of our enemies bribing our publicly elected officials. Pretty dang simple [b][/b]
Because it constitutes abuse of power when it comes from the President.
Biden engaged in massive abuse of power when he started taking kickbacks from Ukraine through his son. Investigating Biden's political corruption isn't an abuse of power. How it's done matters. That is the key here that I have been saying all along. Not so fast. https://www.factcheck.org/2019/12/video-trumps-claims-on-ig-report-and-russia-investigation/Again, no one is asserting we should not investigate our foreign enemies. This impeachment is about Trump asking our enemies to investigate domestic political rivals. He called on Russian to investigate her back in 2016, when she was running against him, in the presidential election. Try to follow along. That, itself was not impeachable as he wasn't sitting president (and it's not part of this impeachment case), though it certainly raised some eyebrows and established a track record for that behavior. Holy Fuggg, You're an IDIOT... I wonder how many times you have to repeat the punchline of a joke before he gets it.
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Again, no one is asserting we should not investigate our foreign enemies. This impeachment is about Trump asking our enemies to investigate domestic political rivals.
No,...Trump was asking Ukraine to investigate Ukranians who participated with Biden's corruption. What is it that makes leftists such liars? Well, there are multiple sources that say Bidens' names were omitted from the transcript, but it's hard to argue with this: Trump saying it himself that the Bidens were a topic in the phone call. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPORF1rZU2wSaying as much does not make me a leftist or a liar. .......Maybe not! BUT CLUELESS IDIOT would suffice!
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Ukraine is now our enemy? WTF over?
"I can't be canceled, because, I don't give a fuuck!" --- Kid Rock 2022
Holocaust Deniers, the ultimate perverted dipchits: Bristoe, TheRealHawkeye, stophel, Ghostinthemachine, anyone else?
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