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You guys sure like those Coopers.

I just cant seem to warm up to them.


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Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Looking at The Toyo Open Country A/T II - or the Cooper DISCOVERER AT3 XLT ...
I’ve always run the MICHELIN LTX A2, But several folks are recommending the Toyo’s and some are recommending the Cooper’s.


I've been running the LTX AT2 also; great tires with long life, extremely comfortable ride and no road noise; but these have been recently discontinued.

Here is a review on the TOYO:
http://www.trucktrend.com/how-to/parts-accessories/1303-8l-toyo-open-country-a-t-ii-review/


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Run the Toyo open country AT on my dodge 1 ton.

Work well on the highway. Even with 4by4, Not so much in the mud. Doesn’t help with a heavy as$ diesel motor in the front either.


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Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Looking at The Toyo Open Country A/T II - or the Cooper DISCOVERER AT3 XLT


I choose Toyo/Nitto, they are the same company, but I also value puncture resistance on sharp rock more than anything. And am willing to make trade offs for it.

However, out of your choices I would go AT3. That is a solid tire.

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Running Coopers on the hunting truck and a Dodge 2500. Both 33's. Love them both on and off road.

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I've had good luck with Toyos, especially off road.

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Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Looking at The Toyo Open Country A/T II - or the Cooper DISCOVERER AT3 XLT

Just for everyday Ranch use and Highway mileage.

I’ve always run the MICHELIN LTX A2, But several folks are recommending the Toyo’s and some are recommending the Cooper’s.

Not sure how the Toyo's will work but the MICHELIN LTX A2 are the best on road off road tires I have ever used and will be what I put on my Colorado ZR2 when I replace the factory Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac's.


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Data point of one: Put one set of Toyo tires on my 3/4ton SRW Dodge when it was my daily driver. Went back to Michelin LTX M/S. Smoother ride. And slightly better fuel economy. 0.5 to 1.0 MPG better.

There are lot of guys in our county running Coopers. However, never warmed up to the Coopers, personally.



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How much more are BF Goodrich?

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coopers get really loud after half tread wear.toyo's have held up really good on my gmc. my first set but I like them. buddy got 90,000 out of his first set.

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Yokohama Geolandar A-T G015.

There's both a P version and a T version. Make sure you get the T. Stiffer sidewalls.

I looked at Toyo and Cooper and was shocked at how much they cost. These were at least $125 per tire cheaper.

The conditions where I hunt is likely similar to yours, lots of clay, except I get frozen ground and snow. These tires excels at everything except ice, but it is mountain rated so I can drive in BC during the winter.

They are nice on the highway, but you always wish for quieter, less road hum. To me they are quiet, to my daughter's, they are noisy. Spoiled brats. They weren't around for the old lug tires.

A good all around AT tire. Way better than original Goodyear Wranglers.

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I got Copper ATs installed on my Z71. Meh, I don’t think think are lasting as long as they should. But it’s hard to get a tire that covers it all.

Long tread life usually means p iss poor performance on ice. Then there is snow and mud up here also. I might go with the more aggressive Coppers the next time.

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Ran/run both on our sequoia's. The Toyo's seem to wear better and as someone else mentioned, quieter ride. No difference in rain, snow. We'll stick with the Toyo's unless B.F.G. brings the Rugged Terrain back to market.



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Originally Posted by Fireball2
Running Coopers on the hunting truck and a Dodge 2500. Both 33's. Love them both on and off road.

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Them ain't Cooper AT3's........

3 ply sidewall ST Maxx......Got 'em too & like em...

Little overkill on the Taco.......but a good strong tire

Busted a Cooper AT3 SL w/3K miles 2 yrs ago...graded rocky BLM road

my first & last set.....

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although not either of your suggestions....

these Goodyear Wrangler Ultra Terrains w/18/32" of meaty tread

Just put these on the older '05 Taco....E rated 265-75x16's...USA mfg

https://www.discounttiredirect.com/buy-tires/goodyear-wrangler-ultraterrain-at

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Cooper 285/16s on my 01 f250 outlasted BFGs big time so I just put a new set on and there $300 less as well


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I have had many Toyos with no major complaints. The last set of tire that I bought, however, were the Open Range A/t from Schwab. They seem fantastic and are the quietest A/T that I have ever run.


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Although we are off subject a bit. I have had mane 10ply ( E rated ) on my GMC 2500 with a diesel engine . Have Coopers on them and they will go to about 65,000 mi. The BF Goodrich lasted 72,000 mi. The only tire I did not like was the original Firestones of some sort. However, these were all highway tires.As for cars, anything Walmart sells lasts about 20,000 miles on the front . I dont know if it is cause it's Walmart or cause its front wheel drive. Yes, I'm a bit off subject but I honestly wonder if Walmart is given a lower quality tire. Some say Cooper!!! Then the next poster insist they are junk!! !!!! Why? I have read box stores get lower quality and have seen that from 2x4's to lawn mowers to kitchen faucets. Maybe its tires too. ???


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I have used the Toyo AT ll on my Ram 1500 4WD and on my mostly off road Jeep Cherokee. I ran 10 plys on the Ram, did some towing (about 5000 miles) but mostly highway miles, we have lots of rough and windy highways in my part of the world but I got 55,000 miles out of them. On the Cherokee (6 plys) I got about 35,000 but most all of that was on bad gravel roads and back country trails.

The Bad - I got in trouble with them on both outfits though, the traction on ice is terrible with them. They are hard enough that a few times when it was on a pure ice surface there was no traction at all and I ended up sliding into a ditch or out into the sagebrush. None of the incidents were at a high uncontrolled speed just a slide that could not be stopped because of lack of traction. Good traction on gravel and snow though.

p.s. - not all Toyos are made overseas, the ones on the Cherokee were made in Japan, the ones on the Ram were made in the USA.

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