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The United Methodist Church has announced that it's considering a split over LGBTQ rights. One side wants to follow the Bible and prohibit queer marriage and clergy, the other side wants to totally ignore God's word and allow it. I can see this happening in many other churches in the future. Satan is alive and well.

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This is what occurs when people buy into the homosexual agenda.


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Young folks have been brainwashed by their educators, media and social media for years now. This is the result.. unless parents and their eiders remain resolute.


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UMC isn't my choice of denomination but I have lots of friends in that local congregation. Our congregation has danced around the subject but I see that discussion coming. It is the communist influence that worries me most about all this. The [bleep] just buy into this because it looks to them to be their cause. More useful idiots??? Be Well, Rustyzipper. I see the bleep in my above words. I guess you can't call a spade a spade. I was on a bicycle forum once that didn't allow any mention of GUNS. Left it quickly. I was unaware that you can't use proper terms. Let me know by PM if you want to ban me. I would like some warning. I read the bible though, and probably would just shake the dust off my sandals and wander off to another forum. Rickbin? Something you want to tell me??? Be Well is my usual prayer to all. Do you find that a problem to you??? Please let me know. And Be Well, Rustyzipper.

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It's a question that all churches will have to make in near future - do you follow the Lord or don't you? The truth isn't open for a committee.


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I agree with that RC. Be Well, Rustyzipper.


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Is there just one bunch of Methodists now?


There are a couple different types of Lutherans I know of.


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No, there's a bunch of them. I could be wrong, but I think they're mostly loosely connected under an overseeing council of some kind.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
The United Methodist Church has announced that it's considering a split over LGBTQ rights. One side wants to follow the Bible and prohibit queer marriage and clergy, the other side wants to totally ignore God's word and allow it. I can see this happening in many other churches in the future. Satan is alive and well.

UMC SPLIT


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
The United Methodist Church has announced that it's considering a split over LGBTQ rights. One side wants to follow the Bible and prohibit queer marriage and clergy, the other side wants to totally ignore God's word and allow it. I can see this happening in many other churches in the future. Satan is alive and well.

UMC SPLIT


I'm afraid I'm coming to the conclusion organized religion is a construct of Satan, RC.

It seems they have all been seduced by the world, an example being the drive to destroy this, a once God fearing country, with moslem integration and destruction of the white race.

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There is a Methodist church in town. Talk about a group of nice, unpretentious people. Come as you are types.


I would hate to see them dissolve. Really a nice bunch.


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Jag, you are close.

Organized religion is a construct of humans. Evil, as in greed, lust, and envy resides in the heart of every person.


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No doubt this is a VERY divisive issue. Most urban churches will take the liberal stance, most rural churches will stay conservative. Nothing new here. A bigger problem is the fact that younger folks are not taking their kids to church at all. This is a much bigger issue IMHO.

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As forgiving Christians, for we have all sinned, we should welcome LGBT to attend our church services. We love the people but hate the behavior.
As far a letting them gain any leadership or teaching roles, well that's another story and I say NOT!!

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We belong to a UMC church. I believe all are welcome in God's house. That said, my wife and I are divorced and remarried and the Bible is specific on what duties we can do in the church. I believe those in a same sex relationship should abide by those same rules. IMHO a split is the best option because the problem won't go away so let those that want to follow their hearts instead of God go their own way. It is more difficult to fight the enemy (Satan) if he's openly allowed inside the wire.
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Originally Posted by wilkeshunter
No doubt this is a VERY divisive issue. Most urban churches will take the liberal stance, most rural churches will stay conservative. Nothing new here. A bigger problem is the fact that younger folks are not taking their kids to church at all. This is a much bigger issue IMHO.



Why would you want to?


The jackasses that are screwing you on main street are the same sickly sweet bastards shaking your hand and passing the plate at church.


Grandpa used to say that you should be wary of the folks up front at church......look out for the loudest singers and the guys who stand up first and fastest.


Church aint the problem....the people in the church are. JMHO.


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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Jag, you are close.

Organized religion is a construct of humans. Evil, as in greed, lust, and envy resides in the heart of every person.


Yes, all are born of the flesh and were destined for death, but their Creator, GOD, loved them, as you love yours who you created in your image, and provided a way for them to be forgiven, as most do their kids, from the justice deserved from their transgressions.

Now, the truth is, not ALL live their lives acting on the fleshly weaknesses of the vices you describe above.


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I’m 62 and have been a Methodist all my life. We are not the first church to have been attacked by the homosexual agenda. They went after the Presbyterian church years ago and succeeded in getting that church to split, as has been proposed with my church. Look at what it did to the Presbyterian’s.....it’s about destroyed that faith. Presbyterian churches have been closing everywhere. My wife was a Presbyterian before she married me. Her family lives in Atlanta. With that city being the LBGT (and whatever else) Mecca you’d figure the Presbyterian churches might thrive there. Nope. Her family attends the largest Pres church in Atl....going to services there now, it’s like attending church in a ghost town. The second largest Pres church in Atl closed their doors a few years ago. They closed the Presbyterian church in the South GA town we live in now.....their agenda did nothing but destroy the Presbyterian church as a whole.

That is what Methodists are concerned with now....the future of our church.

After they split our church, then they’ll be coming after the Southern Baptists....that ought to be interesting.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
There is a Methodist church in town. Talk about a group of nice, unpretentious people. Come as you are types. I would hate to see them dissolve. Really a nice bunch.
Agree - same as my experience with smaller Methodist congregations. IMHO, not many of those will dissolve due to such a split. Conversely, the proposed separation may just save the Methodist denomination from total degradation from the principles of John Wesley, et. al;. There seems to be some decent hope for the eventual outcome and true Methodism may regain its footing.

Due to the "acceptance" of moral corruption as forced by the high ranking leaders of that denomination, this eventuality was most predictable - even though it has taken a long time to form. It is interesting that - apparently - the growing demand for adherence to high and enduring principles primarily was driven by Methodist congregations and leaders outside the U.S. I would like to know more about that aspect.


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