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Originally Posted by 16bore
I’m telling you, if this goes without incident, it’s 100% success. One scuffle that gets dramatized and it’s a complete failure.

While I don’t trust 100% of gun owners, I certainly believe 100% in their rights.

January 21st will be the day of “toldja so’s” and I hope it’s the 2A side.

Either way, you’ll see the headline “White Supremacists March on MLK Day”......bet on it.


If the Mayor of Richmond allows the police to do their job, unlike the Liberal Mayor of Portland and his City Commissioners, the demonstration will likely go well. Anti-Provocateurs creativity is undeniable.

All any Chief of Police has to do is look to Portland and the Antifa anti-anything crowd to understand the actions these demonstrators will attempt to cause a riot....Shut them down with arrests in the beginning, then watch the local and national news portray the police as fascists and uniformed storm troopers.

All the pro 2A attendees need to do is hold in their shît and police their own people for whacks that want to burn a primer. 😎


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All of the VA cops I know are shooters and 2A to the hilt. So we got that going for us...which is nice.

But they ain’t in Richmond either.

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Maybe figuring out how to take the guns first and maybe due process later...


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VCDL president, Philip Van Cleave statements:
Monday, January 20, is VCDL's Lobby Day. It is not VCDL's Protest Day.
There is a distinct difference between the two.
Lobby Day is about, well, lobbying - sending a message to the General Assembly and to the Governor, Attorney General, and the Lt. Governor. That message is simple: no more gun control that in any way, shape, or form negatively affects law-abiding gun owners. Bills that go after criminals or bills that are beneficial to gun owners are fine.
While there have been some verbal threats by the Democrat leadership to push major gun control down the throats of Virginia's gun owners and some very bad bills already filed to back up that threat, NOTHING has happened yet and won't until after January 8. And perhaps it won't happen at all, if we press hard enough.
The sanctuary movement, with its absolutely massive turnouts of gun owners, is sending a deafening message to lawmakers ahead of Lobby Day. On top of that, we now believe the size of the crowd on Lobby Day could be absolutely incredible, possibly historic, if gun owners from around the state follow through and attend as we believe they will. You will absolutely want to be a part of this!
Militias
Various militia groups from Virginia and nearby states have graciously volunteered to provide security. With a large Capitol, Richmond, and State police presence, not to mention enough citizens armed with handguns to take over a modern mid-sized country, we have the security base covered nicely. That said, we welcome our militia brothers and sisters to be part of making the day a success! Some militia groups are looking to take canned food donations during Lobby Day and deliver them to a Richmond Food Bank.
Long Guns
If you are asking how you can help with VCDL's mission, carrying long guns at Lobby Day is not helpful - it is a distraction. VCDL's important messages inevitably get lost as the press rushes to get pictures of anyone carrying an AR or AK. The stories then become about the rifle, not VCDL's agenda. You can set your watch by it. Long guns are not easy to carry in a crowd, either. VCDL needs its voice heard loud and clear in order to able to stop the onslaught of gun-control bills.
Laws you need to know for carry in Richmond
You can't have a magazine in a centerfire rifle or pistol that holds more than 20 rounds unless you have a Concealed Handgun Permit (CHP). You must also have a CHP if the centerfire rifle or pistol has a threaded barrel or a folding stock. Click here to see the code section, which also covers similar restrictions on shotguns: 18.2-287.4
Open carry without a CHP is legal in Virginia, but watch the restrictions in the previous paragraph.
You need a CHP to carry in the General Assembly or Capitol Building. Once through security, you can carry openly or concealed in the buildings. You cannot carry in the gallery over the Senator Floor. Keep an eye on these alerts. Should any of this change, we will notify you here.
VCDL Lobby Day is a peaceful event about gun rights and NOTHING ELSE
We are NOT there to have arguments with the other side. They lobby, we lobby, and never the two shall meet. Just ignore them.
And we are not there to push any other agenda. Our total focus is on protecting our right to keep and bear arms. Period. This is not about flags, statues, history, etc. Just guns.
If you somehow find yourself being harassed by the other side, don't engage them. They could well be baiting you and recording what you do for propaganda purposes. If necessary, go find a police officer and let them take care of the person causing the disturbance. Otherwise, just ignore them and go about your business.
VCDL has a great relationship with the Capitol Police, the Richmond Police, the Virginia State Police, and most other law enforcement agencies in the Commonwealth. We welcome their presence and are glad they are there to keep everything peaceful, while we work on the job at hand.
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This should be a great event, with freedom-loving Americans from all walks of life standing should-to-should to protect our most precious civil right - the right of self-defense. See you there!
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Good cautions by Van Cleave.

THing is, we need to remember one thing about politics, and this is political at its core, is:

"The World is Run By Those Who Show Up!"


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Originally Posted by 16bore
Should be taken to the steps of every courthouse on the 20th, not just the state capital and not just Richmond.


The attack is coming from the state level, not the local. How the [bleep] would standing around the courthouse in Harrisonburg have any impact on the traitors in Richmond?
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Originally Posted by 16bore
I’m telling you, if this goes without incident, it’s 100% success. One scuffle that gets dramatized and it’s a complete failure.

While I don’t trust 100% of gun owners, I certainly believe 100% in their rights.

January 21st will be the day of “toldja so’s” and I hope it’s the 2A side.

Either way, you’ll see the headline “White Supremacists March on MLK Day”......bet on it.


I completely disagree. No incident is ideal and everyone's hope. Antifa punks want to get physical, then guess what, they're gonna find out real quick they're not in Portland anymore. The guys I know going from here sure as hell don't back away from a fight. If you think a working man knocking the hell out of some pussy in a black mask that's attacking him is bad optics, you're nuts.

Have fun in Roanoke on the 20th, I'll be in Richmond.



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Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by 16bore
Should be taken to the steps of every courthouse on the 20th, not just the state capital and not just Richmond.


The attack is coming from the state level, not the local. How the [bleep] would standing around the courthouse in Harrisonburg have any impact on the traitors in Richmond?
JFC....

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Originally Posted by 16bore
Should be taken to the steps of every courthouse on the 20th, not just the state capital and not just Richmond.


The attack is coming from the state level, not the local. How the [bleep] would standing around the courthouse in Harrisonburg have any impact on the traitors in Richmond?
JFC....


You understand how delegates and elected knuckleheads works right? Judge? Mayor? City Councel? I reckon it’s one thing to carry a sign for a day, and another to actually have the conversations.

Everyone bitches about how clueless some of these people are, yet people don’t ever speak to them. Anyway..

Be sure to read what VCDL asked of attendees.

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I talk to my delegates both at least once a month. Probably because I do business with them.

So please explain what the mayor of Harrisonburg has to do with the Democrats in the state legislature trying to infringe upon my God given rights? Or our local judges? City council members? We've fought the fight at the local level at our BOS meetings...and won. Now it's time to take it, in solidarity, to the state level in Richmond, where the next fight is.
If you want to stay home out of fear or whatever else your motivation is, then stay the [bleep] home and talk to your mayor and local judges, but don't sit there and try talk everyone else out of going.
I'm glad as hell everyone doesn't have your mindset.

If you think you're gonna effect change sitting in your couch good luck

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Save it for Richmond jack.

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Originally Posted by whackem_stackem


So, Where's the NRA?



That is the HUGE QUESTION.

The NRA is having a protest day on the 13th... Not seen it advertised much... I don't expect the turnout to be even 20% of the grassroots VCDL day on the 20th.

What is really shocking to me is how quiet the NRA is... with their Headquarters is IN VIRGINIA... AND

The Dems are directly targeting them with this bill (i.e. they have an indoor shooting range and employ more than 50 people... NO OTHER RANGE IN VIRGINIA DOES... to the best of my knowledge).

https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+ful+HB567

Dems bitchslapping the NRA SPECIFICALLY... and not a peep out of the NRA that I have seen. Unbelievable.

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The second question... Why is the NRA NOT starting recalls on these Virginia delegates? They have hundreds of lawyers on their payroll... Take out governor Coonman's pawns and the game is over.

Virginia recall laws require only 10% of voters to sign petitions. in many case that is 1,000 to 1,500 signatures to recall a delegate. MANY 2A sanctuary meetings have 2,000 to 4,000 people show up. Easy as pie to pass around recall petitions. Take out 6 delegates and the Dems no longer have control. (...think I am right on 6, but I will double check later).

Also, will there be recall petitions at NRA day on the 13th... or Lobby Day on the 20? Organize by counties and districts... collect signatures. Assuming 50,000 people at Lobby day... and there you go... recalls DONE! Even recall Coonman, his LG and AG...

Freshman delegates have not violated their the Oath to uphold the Constitution YET, but other senior delegates have (2018 and 2019 etc.). Good and sufficient enough reason there.

I would draft recalls myself, but I am not a lawyer and would want the petitions to pass muster when challenged... (Any lawyers want to help? ...drop me a PM).

As for Leroy Bean... pussies will always be around on the internet... but F2F morons like that cower instantly. Zero chance they will ever show-up to a call out... ZERO.


If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.



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The NRA is making themselves irrelevant. The old model doesn't fit the battles we have to fight now. It's time to become aggressive, belligerent, and loud. Trying to negotiate civilly with these liberal Democrat socialists will not work any longer. They want to push, we better be ready to punch back.



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poor blue states frown

I'm sure there's a "homeless crackheads in Los Anchorage" thread you could troll somewhere... Why you're worrying your pretty little head about us Virginians I'll never know.
I'm assuming you just enjoy being a [bleep] with the anonymity of the internet. You should go to Roanoke on the 20th and protest the city council chambers with 16bore.

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Not trolling all; just wondering why folks elect all them nice democrats, and then wish the NRA would fix things fer em grin

Get a clue. The NRA can't waste their cash on stupidity.


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Originally Posted by watch4bear
Not trolling all; just wondering why folks elect all them nice democrats, and then wish the NRA would fix things fer em grin

Get a clue. The NRA can't waste their cash on stupidity.

The NRA won't have any to waste much longer. I'm betting insolvency by mid 2021. If they're lucky! (Grin)



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Then who will you cry too?

160 million gun owners-4.5 million NRA members grin


You can cry to me if you want. Maybe theres something I can say to help.


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Originally Posted by watch4bear
Then who will you cry too?

160 million gun owners-4.5 million NRA members grin


You can cry to me if you want. Maybe theres something I can say to help.


I do need a good laugh...tell me how much you donated to the NRA-ILA this year! Not sure which would be funnier, you giving a lot, or you giving nothing. I'm guessing you gave nothing.



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Then your side will hurt when you realize what the dems have in store for you grin


Blue states...Why the NRA can't have nice things.

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