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This one might go on a long time. if it makes some think about matters, that's not bad.
These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o "May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"
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This is why the UMC is likely going to split. The rural churches are still pretty much Conservative, and the large urban churches are not. At the UMC church we attended, they had a security team, and I know that on any given Sunday, at least half a dozen men were packing.
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Yet the Methodist church is down with abortion. No guns, but it’s ok to kill infants? A bit of a head scratcher there.
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And truthful. He was prolly just chittin when HE said, "Call no one ON EARTH father for your father is in heaven...", but I wouldnt bet my life or other lives on it. How would you like your kids you died for to call other people dad? I also thought HE said to fear HIM, meaning "you better mind my words". Funny, many moslems grow up knowing (thinking) it's a good thing to kill Jews and their kids. They are so indoctrinated its hard to change their thinking.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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football is football. when teams try to make it more than what it is, football becomes clouded. this is what churches do. bottom line. the minister is only stating what is a known fact, we all are lost to our own ideas of what football should be. what we need to do is read the football manual of rules and realize that, unless we play by the rules, and do what the head referee says, we aren't going to make it to the playoffs. without believing in the seriousness of the penalties being leveled at us by the opposing team, and without receiving a penalty decline by the head ref, instant replay will seal our fate. anyone in the crowd who has the guts to stand up and warn the others of whats going on down on the field, has my respect.
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Unfortunately, in this day and age, comments like that minister's get publicity. It's all about generating outrage to get clicks & views.
The reality is the minster's comments are so ignorant that they are hardly worth commenting on.
Politics is War by Other Means
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Something I read recently seemed to indicate the likelihood of an impending major schism in the UMC over some of these issues.
My wife and I left the UMC over these issues, and returned to the Episcopal Church in quite a conservative diocese.
When we moved here, we found a church that had split from the Episcopal Church and became Anglican because TEC was getting too liberal.
Mathew 22: 37-39
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I thought Methodist ministers were female? With cop haircuts. Ask ‘goober.
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... can't a man/woman have a relationship with the big Man and his Daddy without assembly? Short answer - No. Even if you believe it's possible today, you have to admit that at some time that wasn't at all possible. Period. It doesn't matter what sect you ascribe to. Read the Bible. Pay attention to how God Himself asks to be worshiped. Very little of what he asked is possible alone.
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I’ll deal with it when I get there.
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... can't a man/woman have a relationship with the big Man and his Daddy without assembly? Short answer - No. Even if you believe it's possible today, you have to admit that at some time that wasn't at all possible. Period. It doesn't matter what sect you ascribe to. Read the Bible. Pay attention to how God Himself asks to be worshiped. Very little of what he asked is possible alone. I disagree. Wholeheartedly. And respectfully. Not attending church will not send you to hell, or make God love you any less. Just as someone who does attend church may not have a strong relationship with God, someone certainly may have a strong relationship with God without ever attending church.
Every day on this side of the ground is a win.
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In regards to my heart troubles, my doctor said, the people with symptoms are lucky. The same may apply to the soul. Now, that's something to consider. If ya don't know you don't know, you're deceived. Those that know they don't know may have hope. DF
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There's a big difference between having a relationship with God and being saved. Anyone, any where, any time can be saved by simply accepting Christ. Anyone who has done so is going to heaven, no matter what. Having a relationship is a way of life, not a way of salvation. It allows you to have a few of the benefits of salvation here on earth but doesn't affect whether you're actually saved or not. You can live alone in the most remote place on earth for years, totally separated from any Christians, and still be saved. Having a relationship there though, is far more difficult.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
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Hebrews 10:25. Just sayin.
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I’ll deal with it when I get there. Yeah. That’ll show em.
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I’ll deal with it when I get there. It's can save a lot of trouble if you wear snake boots in the back country.
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Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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People are pretty much useless and more so when it comes to salvation... networking is for those seeking salvation in the physical world, church sells that to the masses... only relationship that really matters for spiritual salvation is the Holy Spirit... kinda a one on one guy.
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When HE says, I never knowed ye homie
You’re fücked
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I’m just a sinner saved by grace. Undeserving, but I’m God’s child. I was raised a hard Baptist. Got married 40 yrs ago and embraced the Christian Church. I was unchurched for many years. My newness of life has allowed me to find a great, Christ centered church. My personal walk w My Saviour allows me to see the fallibility of religions vs Christian belief and convictions. We do not allow a pastor or mortal religion to hold sway above our relationship w Christ. All have their belief, I never try to dissuade them. But, if you ask me about my Jesus and faith I will surely pray for and with you. That’s my calling. Gods richest blessings be upon all.
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A local Methodist minister suggests you can’t be a Christian and carry a gun. He's just plain full of $hit
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