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Originally Posted by longarm
Listed as currently out of stock.

Here you go. Lots of them out there for the same price. Link

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by longarm
Listed as currently out of stock.

Here you go. Lots of them out there for the same price. Link


Wow. $299.99 after added to cart plus $30 shipping. Not bad.


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Originally Posted by 257heaven
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Originally Posted by longarm
Listed as currently out of stock.

Here you go. Lots of them out there for the same price. Link


Wow. $299.99 after added to cart plus $30 shipping. Not bad.

Nice. Forty dollars off what was already an unbelievable price. Special sale. Likely time limited.

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Very nice, thank you TRH.

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Originally Posted by longarm
Very nice, thank you TRH.

Buy it from Atlantic Firearms (link above). Put it in the cart, and the price changes to $299.00.

I've only seen good reviews of these things. I just now, a few minutes ago, put my order in for $299.00 plus $30.00 shipping. They say it should be here by Monday the latest.

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Turkey makes some purtty damn nice CZ 75 clones

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some years ago, using the same handloads i set up some targets for 1911's.
used :
custom 2000dollar colt gold cup
springfield g.i. replica
norinco
WWII remington
had three different people shoot all the guns at targets assigned to the gun.
didn't see much difference between them where they were hitting.
all the guns did pretty much the same thing.
this was not bullseye shooting but about ten yards.
still love that norinco. i use to embarrass a guy with a gold cup pretty regularly with that gun.


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Originally Posted by P_Weed
Not too far off topic - Some years ago COLT made a 'Model of 1911' - WWI - Carbonia Blue replica pistol, authentic in every detail.

I had wandered into Scheels looking for my 1st 1911 - This pistol was laying on a display shelf along with other 1911s
with only a price tag. I asked a salesman about it and he just said, "Well it's what you see - Just a basic 1911".
I liked it and put it on layby.

Some months later I returned to Scheels to pay-off my new pistol. A different salesman went into the backroom to
retrieve it. He returned and asked me "What in the world did you buy? - This handgun is in a box-in-a box-in-a-box" ...

I told him I didn't have clue - But I was sure glad I did!

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~ 'Colt Model of 1911 WWI
i was eager to get one of those when they first came out, but when arrived at the gun store, I saw that it had a problem, ie., the slide and the frame didn’t match up, which could be seen by looking at where they meet in the back by the hammer. The slide sat too far forward in relation to the frame. I passed on it. Not being a gunsmith, I don’t know what caused this, but it should never have passed inspection at the factory. That scared me off the model, and I didn’t look into finding one again after that.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by P_Weed
Not too far off topic - Some years ago COLT made a 'Model of 1911' - WWI - Carbonia Blue replica pistol, authentic in every detail.

I had wandered into Scheels looking for my 1st 1911 - This pistol was laying on a display shelf along with other 1911s
with only a price tag. I asked a salesman about it and he just said, "Well it's what you see - Just a basic 1911".
I liked it and put it on layby.

Some months later I returned to Scheels to pay-off my new pistol. A different salesman went into the backroom to
retrieve it. He returned and asked me "What in the world did you buy? - This handgun is in a box-in-a box-in-a-box" ...

I told him I didn't have clue - But I was sure glad I did!

<> https://www.gunsamerica.com/userimages/3054/944757665/wm_7181418.jpg <>

~ 'Colt Model of 1911 WWI
i was eager to get one of those when they first came out, but when arrived at the gun store, I saw that it had a problem, ie., the slide and the frame didn’t match up, which could be seen by looking at where they meet in the back by the trigger. The slide sat too far forward in relation to the frame. I passed on it. Not being a gunsmith, I don’t know what caused this, but it should never have passed inspection at the factory. That scared me off the model, and I didn’t look into finding one again after that.

That is caused by an improperly fit barrel. Depending on how badly it was botched, it can be fixed with the next sized link, or with a new barrel.

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That’s what I figured. A poor link fit.

PS I see you surmised that I meant hammer instead of trigger. Brain fart.

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I have a moral issue buying anything from China, Russia, or Turkey. I look at it as paying for bullets to be used against our military...especially my son.

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Originally Posted by Crimson Mister
I have a moral issue buying anything from China, Russia, or Turkey. I look at it as paying for bullets to be used against our military...especially my son.

Turkey is a NATO ally of the United States. They've actually fought beside US troops, and came to our aid on occasion in combat.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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I have a moral issue buying anything from China, Russia, or Turkey. I look at it as paying for bullets to be used against our military...especially my son.

Turkey is a NATO ally of the United States. They've actually fought beside US troops, and came to our aid on occasion in combat.

Turkey is as much our ally as Pakistan. They would not let us cross their land to get to Iraq. They’re allegiance is to Sunni not NATO.

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And they actively thwarted what we were doing in Syria.

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Regardless, what I stated is 100% correct. Not comparable to China or Russia.

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Definition or regardless is “without paying attention to the present situation; despite the prevailing circumstances.”

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Regardless = despite everything

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Originally Posted by Crimson Mister
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I have a moral issue buying anything from China, Russia, or Turkey. I look at it as paying for bullets to be used against our military...especially my son.

Turkey is a NATO ally of the United States. They've actually fought beside US troops, and came to our aid on occasion in combat.

Turkey is as much our ally as Pakistan. They would not let us cross their land to get to Iraq. They’re allegiance is to Sunni not NATO.
The US and Turkey's regional goals are a bit in conflict at the moment...that doesn't mean we're enemies, and it doesn't mean Turkey is Pakistan. Turkey is a LONG WAY from Pakistan.

It's an uncomfortable situation because we're supporting the Kurds in Syria, and the Kurds are the big terrorism problem in Turkey; so that puts us at odds. Turkey isn't the "bad guy" over there right now, and they're not our enemy. They're just acting in their own interest, and the US is making things rather difficult for them.

Syria was Obama's biggest blunder. There is NO scenario (regardless who is in the White House) where the US will come away from Syria in better shape then when we entered...HUGE freaking mistake!

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