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Anybody else feel like the US govt has been lying to us about the virus in the USA?
A guy dies from it in Wash. state on Friday, who just Thursday said they did not have cases. Now the nursing home is full of it and they have known that they were exhibiting unusual symptoms across the facility for nearly a week. A high-school kid has had symptoms for at least a week, and has gone to school off and on, but just now they decide that he is positive. 140 health care workers are under quarantine from UC Davis, which supposedly is one of the best containment facilities in the nation and was prewarned about the incoming patient transfer. 8400 travelers remain under attention in Cali alone, but all have been allowed to return directly from China and wander around their hometowns with no forced quarantine.
This virus is already spreading across the west coast via community transmission, and it will continue to spread. There is no longer containment possible in the United States. So now we will all get to see what the real Rnaught and death rates turn out to be.
"No testing, nothing to report, no official problem"--seems to be the mantra of lying govts everywhere.
PS-the governor of NYS just said that it is "inevitable" that NY will have a case soon. Want to make a bet that they already have a positive test and will announce it late Sunday afternoon, as though it showed up out of nowhere?
DD, the genetic test's are not very sensitive. They have about a 30% false negative rate. This the main reason the Chinese went to using chest x-rays and symptoms for the diagnostic criteria, so they would release fewer infected people back into the general population.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Lots have the corona virus. Y'all have probably had it many times before. We don't know the infectious rate, because no one is tested for it.
Don't listen to the idiot propagandists trying to make you scared of your shadow.
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Lots have the corona virus. Y'all have probably had it many times before. We don't know the infectious rate, because no one is tested for it.
Don't listen to the idiot propagandists trying to make you scared of your shadow. So we've had the COVID19 version of a corona virus??? Don't be stupid.
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New case in Illinois. https://wgntv.com/news/illinois-health-officials-announce-new-case-of-coronavirus/The Illinois Department of Health announced Saturday that one Illinois resident has tested positive for coronavirus.
The positive test results will have to be confirmed by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention lab. The patient is hospitalized in isolation and CDC protocols have been implemented.
Officials are working to identify and monitor individuals who were in contact with the patient in an effort to reduce the risk of additional transmission. The state will request that the CDC deploys a team to support these efforts.
Remember why, specifically, the Bill of Rights was written...remember its purpose. It was written to limit the power of government over the individual.
There is no believing a liar, even when he speaks the truth.
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A guy in Kirkland, WA. That makes a total of 1. That's minuscule compared to auto accidents, drug OD's, knifings, or the flu. While the number of cases is slowly growing, this is hardly a pandemic. It's just a media free for all. CORONAVIRUSIt depends. If the lethality rate is 23 times that of flu (and it's likely to be much higher in poor countries) and if it is every bit as contagious as flu (or more so) then, it could be a big deal. They say populations over 60 are most at risk, which means guys like a lot of us here. Best we can tell, same populations at risk for the regular flu are at risk for Corona. Keep in mind, at 23x number is likely inflated. People with mild cases are much less likely to head to the hospital and get tested. Yeah, like the Chinese ex eye dr. Old and feeble. Dead.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
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https://jamanetwork.com/journals/ja...&utm_content=tfl&utm_term=022420https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landig/article/PIIS2589-7500(20)30026-1/fulltext Key Findings From the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention Report72 314 Cases (as of February 11, 2020)Confirmed cases: 44 672 (62%) Suspected cases: 16 186 (22%) Diagnosed cases: 10 567 (15%) Asymptomatic cases: 889 (1%) Age distribution (N = 44 672)≥80 years: 3% (1408 cases) 30-79 years: 87% (38 680 cases) 20-29 years: 8% (3619 cases) 10-19 years: 1% (549 cases) <10 years: 1% (416 cases) Spectrum of disease (N = 44 415)Mild: 81% (36 160 cases) Severe: 14% (6168 cases) Critical: 5% (2087 cases) Case-fatality rate2.3% (1023 of 44 672 confirmed cases) 14.8% in patients aged ≥80 years (208 of 1408) 8.0% in patients aged 70-79 years (312 of 3918) 49.0% in critical cases (1023 of 2087) Health care personnel infected3.8% (1716 of 44 672) 63% in Wuhan (1080 of 1716) 14.8% cases classified as severe or critical (247 of 1668) 5 deaths
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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Just used the can of Lysol and realized on the label its effective against "Human Coronavirus". Now, what's the difference between "human coronavirus" and the strain being talked about?
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If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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There are lots of coronaviruses. I doubt that Lysol has tested their stuff on the new one but it could work just fine.
Back to the death rate of corona vs flu. The huge majority of deaths have been in the Chinese cities where pollution is very bad and most of the adults smoke. Their lungs have to be a mess. I suspect (and I'm no doctor or scientist) that if the same people were in the US with the cleaner air and a much reduced smoking rate, the death rate would be lower, maybe close to what the flu rate is. It'll be interesting to see how it all washes out.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
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Any word confirming this is a bioweapon? Doubt it would ever come out if it were.
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Here's a study evaluating the effectiveness of case isolation and contact tracing. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(20)30074-7/fulltextSkipping to the end... "Our study indicates that in most plausible outbreak scenarios, case isolation and contact tracing alone is insufficient to control outbreaks, and that in some scenarios even near perfect contact tracing will still be insufficient, and further interventions would be required to achieve control. Rapid and effective contact tracing can reduce the initial number of cases, which would make the outbreak easier to control overall. Effective contact tracing and isolation could contribute to reducing the overall size of an outbreak or bringing it under control over a longer time period."
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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I'm not worried about me in this. I worry about my wife who has COPD.
The older I become the more I am convinced that the voice of honor in a man's heart is the voice of GOD.
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If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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Good information Kingston. Thank you!
Remember why, specifically, the Bill of Rights was written...remember its purpose. It was written to limit the power of government over the individual.
There is no believing a liar, even when he speaks the truth.
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Time to brush up on good hygiene protocols, washing hands, not touching your face, avoiding large crowds. See 3/9 and 6/9. https://mobile.twitter.com/trvrb/status/1233970271318503426The team at the @seattleflustudy have sequenced the genome the #COVID19 community case reported yesterday from Snohomish County, WA, and have posted the sequence publicly to http://gisaid.org. There are some enormous implications here. 1/9 This strongly suggests that there has been cryptic transmission in Washington State for the past 6 weeks. 3/9 It's possible that this genetic similarity is a coincidence and these are separate introductions. However, I believe this is highly unlikely. The WA1 case had a variant at site 18060. This variant is only present in 2/59 viruses from China. 4/9 I'd assess the p-value for this coincidence at 2/59=0.03 and so is statistically significant. Additionally, these two cases are geographically proximal, both residing in Snohomish County. 5/9 I believe we're facing an already substantial outbreak in Washington State that was not detected until now due to narrow case definition requiring direct travel to China. 6/9 An update, because I see people overly speculating on total outbreak size. Our best current expectation is a few hundred current infections. Expect more analyses tomorrow.
Remember why, specifically, the Bill of Rights was written...remember its purpose. It was written to limit the power of government over the individual.
There is no believing a liar, even when he speaks the truth.
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If you filled a Super Soaker with the corona virus, is it an assault weapon?
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SARS...….…….2004 AVIAN...………..2008 SWINE...……….2010 MERS...………..2012 EBOLA.....……..2014 ZIKA...………….2016 EBOLA.....…… 2018 CORONA..…….2020. Common denominator??? All election years.
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