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Re: 1st US corona death [Re: DakotaDeer] #14620024 02/29/20
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Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
Anybody else feel like the US govt has been lying to us about the virus in the USA?

A guy dies from it in Wash. state on Friday, who just Thursday said they did not have cases. Now the nursing home is full of it and they have known that they were exhibiting unusual symptoms across the facility for nearly a week. A high-school kid has had symptoms for at least a week, and has gone to school off and on, but just now they decide that he is positive. 140 health care workers are under quarantine from UC Davis, which supposedly is one of the best containment facilities in the nation and was prewarned about the incoming patient transfer. 8400 travelers remain under attention in Cali alone, but all have been allowed to return directly from China and wander around their hometowns with no forced quarantine.

This virus is already spreading across the west coast via community transmission, and it will continue to spread. There is no longer containment possible in the United States. So now we will all get to see what the real Rnaught and death rates turn out to be.

"No testing, nothing to report, no official problem"--seems to be the mantra of lying govts everywhere.

PS-the governor of NYS just said that it is "inevitable" that NY will have a case soon. Want to make a bet that they already have a positive test and will announce it late Sunday afternoon, as though it showed up out of nowhere?



DD, the genetic test's are not very sensitive. They have about a 30% false negative rate. This the main reason the Chinese went to using chest x-rays and symptoms for the diagnostic criteria, so they would release fewer infected people back into the general population.


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Re: 1st US corona death [Re: Rock Chuck] #14620034 02/29/20
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Lots have the corona virus. Y'all have probably had it many times before. We don't know the infectious rate, because no one is tested for it.

Don't listen to the idiot propagandists trying to make you scared of your shadow.

Re: 1st US corona death [Re: TimberRunner] #14620057 02/29/20
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Originally Posted by TimberRunner
Lots have the corona virus. Y'all have probably had it many times before. We don't know the infectious rate, because no one is tested for it.

Don't listen to the idiot propagandists trying to make you scared of your shadow.


So we've had the COVID19 version of a corona virus??? Don't be stupid.

Re: 1st US corona death [Re: Rock Chuck] #14620063 02/29/20
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New case in Illinois.

https://wgntv.com/news/illinois-health-officials-announce-new-case-of-coronavirus/

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The Illinois Department of Health announced Saturday that one Illinois resident has tested positive for coronavirus.

The positive test results will have to be confirmed by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention lab. The patient is hospitalized in isolation and CDC protocols have been implemented.

Officials are working to identify and monitor individuals who were in contact with the patient in an effort to reduce the risk of additional transmission. The state will request that the CDC deploys a team to support these efforts.


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Re: 1st US corona death [Re: antelope_sniper] #14620082 02/29/20
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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
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A guy in Kirkland, WA. That makes a total of 1. That's minuscule compared to auto accidents, drug OD's, knifings, or the flu. While the number of cases is slowly growing, this is hardly a pandemic. It's just a media free for all.

CORONAVIRUS


It depends. If the lethality rate is 23 times that of flu (and it's likely to be much higher in poor countries) and if it is every bit as contagious as flu (or more so) then, it could be a big deal. They say populations over 60 are most at risk, which means guys like a lot of us here.


Best we can tell, same populations at risk for the regular flu are at risk for Corona.

Keep in mind, at 23x number is likely inflated. People with mild cases are much less likely to head to the hospital and get tested.


Yeah, like the Chinese ex eye dr. Old and feeble. Dead.


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Re: 1st US corona death [Re: Rock Chuck] #14620096 02/29/20
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https://jamanetwork.com/journals/ja...&utm_content=tfl&utm_term=022420

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landig/article/PIIS2589-7500(20)30026-1/fulltext


Key Findings From the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention Report


72 314 Cases (as of February 11, 2020)

Confirmed cases: 44 672 (62%)

Suspected cases: 16 186 (22%)

Diagnosed cases: 10 567 (15%)

Asymptomatic cases: 889 (1%)

Age distribution (N = 44 672)

≥80 years: 3% (1408 cases)

30-79 years: 87% (38 680 cases)

20-29 years: 8% (3619 cases)

10-19 years: 1% (549 cases)

<10 years: 1% (416 cases)

Spectrum of disease (N = 44 415)

Mild: 81% (36 160 cases)

Severe: 14% (6168 cases)

Critical: 5% (2087 cases)

Case-fatality rate

2.3% (1023 of 44 672 confirmed cases)

14.8% in patients aged ≥80 years (208 of 1408)

8.0% in patients aged 70-79 years (312 of 3918)

49.0% in critical cases (1023 of 2087)

Health care personnel infected

3.8% (1716 of 44 672)

63% in Wuhan (1080 of 1716)

14.8% cases classified as severe or critical (247 of 1668)

5 deaths

Re: 1st US corona death [Re: Rock Chuck] #14620117 02/29/20
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Just used the can of Lysol and realized on the label its effective against "Human Coronavirus". Now, what's the difference between "human coronavirus" and the strain being talked about?

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Re: 1st US corona death [Re: Rock Chuck] #14620133 02/29/20
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There are lots of coronaviruses. I doubt that Lysol has tested their stuff on the new one but it could work just fine.

Back to the death rate of corona vs flu. The huge majority of deaths have been in the Chinese cities where pollution is very bad and most of the adults smoke. Their lungs have to be a mess. I suspect (and I'm no doctor or scientist) that if the same people were in the US with the cleaner air and a much reduced smoking rate, the death rate would be lower, maybe close to what the flu rate is. It'll be interesting to see how it all washes out.


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Re: 1st US corona death [Re: Rock Chuck] #14620153 02/29/20
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Any word confirming this is a bioweapon? Doubt it would ever come out if it were.

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Re: 1st US corona death [Re: Rock Chuck] #14620172 02/29/20
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Here's a study evaluating the effectiveness of case isolation and contact tracing.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(20)30074-7/fulltext


Skipping to the end...

"Our study indicates that in most plausible outbreak scenarios, case isolation and contact tracing alone is insufficient to control outbreaks, and that in some scenarios even near perfect contact tracing will still be insufficient, and further interventions would be required to achieve control. Rapid and effective contact tracing can reduce the initial number of cases, which would make the outbreak easier to control overall. Effective contact tracing and isolation could contribute to reducing the overall size of an outbreak or bringing it under control over a longer time period."

Re: 1st US corona death [Re: Rock Chuck] #14620178 02/29/20
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As the world turns


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Re: 1st US corona death [Re: Esox357] #14620200 02/29/20
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Originally Posted by Esox357
Any word confirming this is a bioweapon? Doubt it would ever come out if it were.


https://www.newscientist.com/articl...milar-to-the-covid-19-virus-7-years-ago/

Re: 1st US corona death [Re: Rock Chuck] #14620275 02/29/20
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I'm not worried about me in this. I worry about my wife who has COPD.


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Re: 1st US corona death [Re: Rock Chuck] #14620277 02/29/20
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Re: 1st US corona death [Re: Rock Chuck] #14620291 02/29/20
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How long can corona viruses live outside the body and what kills them.

https://www.journalofhospitalinfection.com/article/S0195-6701(20)30046-3/fulltext

Re: 1st US corona death [Re: kingston] #14620469 03/01/20
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Good information Kingston. Thank you!


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Re: 1st US corona death [Re: Rock Chuck] #14620504 03/01/20
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Time to brush up on good hygiene protocols, washing hands, not touching your face, avoiding large crowds. See 3/9 and 6/9.

https://mobile.twitter.com/trvrb/status/1233970271318503426

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The team at the @seattleflustudy have sequenced the genome the #COVID19 community case reported yesterday from Snohomish County, WA, and have posted the sequence publicly to http://gisaid.org. There are some enormous implications here. 1/9


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This case, WA2, is on a branch in the evolutionary tree that descends directly from WA1, the first reported case in the USA sampled Jan 19, also from Snohomish County, viewable here: https://nextstrain.org/ncov?f_division=Washington 2/9


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This strongly suggests that there has been cryptic transmission in Washington State for the past 6 weeks. 3/9


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It's possible that this genetic similarity is a coincidence and these are separate introductions. However, I believe this is highly unlikely. The WA1 case had a variant at site 18060. This variant is only present in 2/59 viruses from China. 4/9


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I'd assess the p-value for this coincidence at 2/59=0.03 and so is statistically significant. Additionally, these two cases are geographically proximal, both residing in Snohomish County. 5/9


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I believe we're facing an already substantial outbreak in Washington State that was not detected until now due to narrow case definition requiring direct travel to China. 6/9


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An update, because I see people overly speculating on total outbreak size. Our best current expectation is a few hundred current infections. Expect more analyses tomorrow.




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Re: 1st US corona death [Re: Rock Chuck] #14620771 03/01/20
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If you filled a Super Soaker with the corona virus, is it an assault weapon?

Re: 1st US corona death [Re: Rock Chuck] #14620773 03/01/20
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SARS...….…….2004
AVIAN...………..2008
SWINE...……….2010
MERS...………..2012
EBOLA.....……..2014
ZIKA...………….2016
EBOLA.....…… 2018
CORONA..…….2020. Common denominator??? All election years.

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