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Re: 284 Win on an 03 action questions. [Re: craigmcm284] #14657012 03/12/20
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Had been thinkin about rebarreling a sporterized Remington 03a3 with jewel bolt, aftermarket bolt handle, and a walnut stock with a bit of euro influence, in 6.5x55 Ackley Improved with a long heavy fast twist barrel. Figured with the AI it might come close to the 06 case contour, and similar length with long bullets. And be an interesting range rifle. Kind of 6.5 PRC-ish in a retro-cool wrapper.

I been lookin for a reason to buy a big heavy scope with exposed turrets.

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Sounds interesting.

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DF Ijust picked up 03A3 SC couple weeks back that has a same model [bleep] on it. The previous owner had a William's bolt handle installed, still had the original safety though with 03 milled bottom metal
D&T for weaver bases and got them where they were supposed to be. Haven't shot it much but it does show promise. I have one of [bleep] super deluxe sporter stocks with rosewood grip and fore end tip completely checkered with 5 hardwood and ivory diamond shaped inlays on the stock
Looks like someone wanted the Weatherby look for sure Also have a03A3 Rem that was converted to 308 Norma mag in a thumbhole.Springfields have all ways interested me. MB

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Re: 284 Win on an 03 action questions. [Re: Magnum_Bob] #14657205 03/12/20
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Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob
DF Ijust picked up 03A3 SC couple weeks back that has a same model [bleep] on it. The previous owner had a William's bolt handle installed, still had the original safety though with 03 milled bottom metal
D&T for weaver bases and got them where they were supposed to be. Haven't shot it much but it does show promise. I have one of [bleep] super deluxe sporter stocks with rosewood grip and fore end tip completely checkered with 5 hardwood and ivory diamond shaped inlays on the stock
Looks like someone wanted the Weatherby look for sure Also have a03A3 Rem that was converted to 308 Norma mag in a thumbhole.Springfields have all ways interested me. MB

My other '03 is in a French Walnut Herter roll over stock that lost about a half pound of wood with my wood rasp...

This was a project back when I was in High School I did the skip a line checkering (in vogue back than) and the rose wood inlays. It's glassed and free floated, has a McGowen SS barrel (a bit heavy, but what did I know) and in that unmentionable .277 round. But, I was young back then, just didn't know... blush

But would you believe, it's a real shooter...

I keep saying I'm gonna bloody it on something one of these days, just have too many on going projects that keep getting in the way.

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Re: 284 Win on an 03 action questions. [Re: craigmcm284] #14657757 03/13/20
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Re: 284 Win on an 03 action questions. [Re: craigmcm284] #14658061 03/13/20
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DF that’s a beautiful rifle I like it!

Here is my latest, a (way too) slow twist 6.5-06:

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I purchased the short-chambered tube from GB where seller said they’d measured the ROT at 1-in-9” but after range testing I found it MUCH slower as 140 NBTs, 130 VLDs, and 120 GMXs wouldn’t group. Luckily 100 GR TTSXs did and worked nicely on does this past fall!

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I like the Wisner safety & S&K bases/rings. The curly maple stock I got in the classifieds here and it’s lovely.

I’d love a much faster twist and may get around to a rebarreled at some point but for now I think of it as a 25-06 which is what it’s think it was if it could read...






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Re: 284 Win on an 03 action questions. [Re: craigmcm284] #14658653 03/13/20
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Those look nice. A 277 or 6.5-06 is probably an easier way to go than AI-Swede.

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Originally Posted by craigmcm284
Hi guys.
I have an 03 made by Remington, Barreled action that was sporterized by grandfather in the original 30-06 chambering. Serial number is in the 3millions. The barrel is marked with a date of 03/1942 at the very front right where the front site was cut off. It was then passed down to my uncle, and then to me. The barrel is shot out on it. In it's time it was holding sub 1" groups scoped. Now it barely hits a paper plate. I'd like to rebarrel this gun in 284 Win. I've read so many posts on here about doing the 284 in all types of action except the 03. I'm going to ER Shaw do the work. I handload and I like things that aren't the norm. I've read the best way to go to be able to shoot the long for caliber 7mm bullets is to gi with the long action. This is going to be a dual purpose gun 25-26 inch barrel with a heavy sporter barrel. It'll be a deer/black bear and possible elk gun, but id also like to be able to shoot local matches with it. But just to have fun. My main goal is to use it as a long range deer gun. I've heard and read stories of the rebated 284 not feeding correctly is some actions. Has anyone done a rebated rim case build on an 03 that would have any experience with this?

I know I'm going to hear all kinds of stuff about the 280, and 280AI, but I'm pretty dead set on the 284.

One last question is should I ask for any freebore. I understand it going on a long action and can set the 160gr+ bullets out far enough in the magazine, but will I need more freebore to accommodate that.?

If the 284 is ruled out because of my action, 338-06 is a possible backup. But my hope for my first custom is to be a 284. The action has been professionally worked and is super smooth. It also has a very nice Timiney installed. It's also drilled and tapped and still has what look to be Warne bases. I appreciate all the feedback, but as i first mentioned my main concern is feeding issue.

Thanks in advance.
Craig


Send it to JES re-bore and have it bored and chambered in .338-06 or 35 Whelen. It will cost you a fraction of a re-barrel and will shoot great. I know you said 284, but I thought you might like this option. If you want a long range rifle, you might be better off with a newer one set up for it in .284 win. To me that is a old school rifle that needs a classic caliber like 35 Whelen. Your Grandfather would be proud. http://www.35caliber.com/

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Re: 284 Win on an 03 action questions. [Re: DollarShort] #14663267 03/14/20
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Originally Posted by DollarShort
Those look nice. A 277 or 6.5-06 is probably an easier way to go than AI-Swede.


Yeah probably but if that’s your desire go for it!

I’m thinking that if I decide to finally rebarrel mine to correct the twist issue I will likely do 6.5-06AI or 6.5-.280AI.

I like the wildcat cool factor.


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Re: 284 Win on an 03 action questions. [Re: craigmcm284] #14663672 03/14/20
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Looking back I did pass up a custom 03 in 257 Roberts several years ago that I should have jumped on for $400

Re: 284 Win on an 03 action questions. [Re: craigmcm284] #14742419 04/04/20
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Originally Posted by craigmcm284
I don't disagree with what any of you guys are saying. But the upside to doing the 284 in a long action, is the added benefit of being able to seat heavy long for caliber bullets in the mag, with a lil freebore if necessary. I have nothing against the 270, I own one. And I love the 7mm caliber of the 284 Win and 280 Rem. It's just that I like to be a little different. I know nobody personally that has a 284 Win, and I like to be that guy that is different. Everyone at deer camp has a 30-06, 270 "I own both". They also have the 7mm-08 and 280 Rem. I'm the guy that wants to be different. I had a 6.5 Creed when they first came out because it was different, now everyone has one, or more lol. The 284 is a more efficient cartridge than most,and to be honest, I'm really set on it. So I'm really glad guys aren't having feeding issues in an 03 action.

My next question is where to find a decent or I should say really nice Walnut sporter stock? I've bought a few Boyd's Laminate stocks for two different guns and have no complaints at all. I made a Savage 340 Bolt Action 30-30 come back to life and love that little gun. But I've never been impressed with their solid walnut stocks. I ordered a stock from Richards Microfit for a 270 Win build I was doing. I called several times and got answers like it was on the line right now and should be a couple of weeks yet and never received the stock. Called a few weeks later and they magically said they never received my order. They never even billed me. So I don't know what happened there. As mentioned before this gun is to be an heirloom that I keep passing down so I want it to be a functional good looking gun. But, my pockets aren't super deep.


7x57 gives the best of both world. Seat as long as you want. Almost guaranteed to feed as well as the 06 .

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Re: 284 Win on an 03 action questions. [Re: craigmcm284] #14743734 04/04/20
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Ok, I’ll jump in here. First, they are all brass, primers, powder, twists, and barrels. Nothing magical about any of them. In a world of a few constants, throw in a bowl full of variables in the field, and you’ll never know the difference between cartridges from 6.5 to 33 on game.

But, the 284 Win is a very good cartridge, handicapped at the outset, thus never gaining the notice it deserves, especially since R17 came along. I don’t know that I’d start with that rifle you mention because this rifle, IMO, demands, a lightweight build with a just long enough box, tube, and twist faster than 10:1.

Do it but not with “that” rifle. Start from the ground up.

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What does the smith, ER Shaw say?? Have you asked them? If they can do what you want done with no worries, I wouldn`t have any either.
As far as free bore, load a dummy round with the bullet of choice making sure it fits in the mag. and send that to them. They will chamber accordingly.

Most times it`s best to talk directly to the horse.

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Like your idea!
Want a 284? Build it.
I have experience loading that case in 284 and a wildcat 30-284. It's a very easy case to load and rewarding. Great hunting round. Build your 284 and load it with 120TTSX and hunt anything you want successfully. The 120 Nosler Ballistic Tip works great on whitetail. Devistating, deadly, accurate, easy to load. A good smith can put it together for you so that it feeds fine. There sure were factory rifles shooting and feeding just fine. Nevermind the negative ninny naysayers. Build it and have fun with it. I'll bet you'll be glad you did. I was.
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Re: 284 Win on an 03 action questions. [Re: craigmcm284] #14838028 05/01/20
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all the 284 permutations have a certain mystique. i'm a firm believer that if you want something, that's a good enough reason if money isn't a problem.

I daydream from time to time, what if? but when I head for the woods......30-06 or if it's rainy a 6.5 swede with iron sights.

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Remington built 1903 rifles on the old Rock Island '03 tooling until early 1943, when it was superseded by the 03-A3. A Remington 1903 isn't much different than a R.I.A. 1903, except the later production Remington '03's show significantly more tool marks and aren't finished as well.

Any high-number '03 in good condition would be suitable for a .284 Win. Or a standard magnum, for that matter. Just make sure you don't have one of the old case-hardened bolts (small single gas port).

As JB noted, legendary gunwriter Bob Hagel did indeed build a .284 on an A3 action and wrote it up in the 1965 Gun Digest. Or more correctly, he had the equally legendary Fred Huntington of RCBS put it together. In any event, he discusses throats, bullet seating and various loads in detail. He doesn't mention any feeding issues. Most of the loads Hagel notes in the article are pretty hot, which isn't surprising.

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