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Originally Posted by Scott_Thornley
There are none so blind, as those that will not see.

For those of you with an open mind, take two minutes to look at this page:

Worldometer Coronavirus USA stats

Current deaths in the USA - 695
Current recovered - 370
Cases without outcome - about 52,300. Just under 1200 of those are serious cases

Take a look at all of the graphs. Total cases, total deaths, new cases per day, new deaths per day. All those graphs are on linear scales - but the values being graphed are not rising linearly.

The number of “cases” is without a doubt higher than 54,000. As that number goes up, the fatality rate goes down. There’s 54,000 positive test results.


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Problem with the curveballers, is that they missed the curve.

They claim the Covid thing started when they first tested somebody with it.

But it had been in China for at least two months before that, and in every part of the world connected with China for about that same time.

Yet we're still expected to believe the Covid thing hasn't started yet.

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Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by Scott_Thornley
There are none so blind, as those that will not see.

For those of you with an open mind, take two minutes to look at this page:

Worldometer Coronavirus USA stats

Current deaths in the USA - 695
Current recovered - 370
Cases without outcome - about 52,300. Just under 1200 of those are serious cases

Take a look at all of the graphs. Total cases, total deaths, new cases per day, new deaths per day. All those graphs are on linear scales - but the values being graphed are not rising linearly.

The number of “cases” is without a doubt higher than 54,000. As that number goes up, the fatality rate goes down. There’s 54,000 positive test results.


Right, and only those showing serious symptoms are being tested. These same experts said that the majority of those infected will show little, or no, symptoms.


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so those that get it bad, get it bad,,,,, sounds like, a lot of other types of illness

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Originally Posted by Fubarski
Italy's levelled off, and on the way down.


Italy went into "lockdown" 2 1/2 weeks ago, could that explain why it has started to level off in the last few days?


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
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Originally Posted by Scott_Thornley
There are none so blind, as those that will not see.

For those of you with an open mind, take two minutes to look at this page:

Worldometer Coronavirus USA stats

Current deaths in the USA - 695
Current recovered - 370
Cases without outcome - about 52,300. Just under 1200 of those are serious cases

Take a look at all of the graphs. Total cases, total deaths, new cases per day, new deaths per day. All those graphs are on linear scales - but the values being graphed are not rising linearly.

The number of “cases” is without a doubt higher than 54,000. As that number goes up, the fatality rate goes down. There’s 54,000 positive test results.


Right, and only those showing serious symptoms are being tested. These same experts said that the majority of those infected will show little, or no, symptoms.

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631 dead now in Italy from the virus.


Out of just over 10,000 infected. That's a 6% mortality rate. Today they had the single highest death total of any nation for a single day. They have not yet peaked.


Louisiana infection trajectory graph is near vertical as of yesterday.


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Originally Posted by Goosey
Originally Posted by Fubarski

Claim my numbers are wrong, post your own calculations and numbers.


One word: Italy.


Oh, there they go.

There they go.

Every time I start talkin' 'bout Covid, a liberal got to pull Italy out they ass.

That's their one, that's their one.

Italy! Italy!

Let me tell you something, once and for all-Italy got it's own Covid; but compared to the flu in the US, Italy ain't [bleep].

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Originally Posted by Squidge
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Italy's levelled off, and on the way down.


Italy went into "lockdown" 2 1/2 weeks ago, could that explain why it has started to level off in the last few days?



Hard to say, but there is a 14 day incubation period with the disease.

Theoretically, if you could lock EVERYONE in the world down for 28 days or 2 cycles, this thing would burn itself out.


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Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by Scott_Thornley
There are none so blind, as those that will not see.

For those of you with an open mind, take two minutes to look at this page:

Worldometer Coronavirus USA stats

Current deaths in the USA - 695
Current recovered - 370
Cases without outcome - about 52,300. Just under 1200 of those are serious cases

Take a look at all of the graphs. Total cases, total deaths, new cases per day, new deaths per day. All those graphs are on linear scales - but the values being graphed are not rising linearly.

The number of “cases” is without a doubt higher than 54,000. As that number goes up, the fatality rate goes down. There’s 54,000 positive test results.

Not to mention, it takes a couple days to go in the "died" column, but a couple weeks to go in the "recovered" column. So that number will also lag in the calculations.

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Originally Posted by Fubarski

You keep moving the goalposts.not at all

You posted that the death rate would be exponential. It isn't. wrong,it is

You posted that those admitted to the hospital would increase exponentially. It didn't. wrong, it has

You posted that the cold virus was more deadly than the flu. It isn't.wrong. the flu does not kill two for every one whom recovers, not even in the early days of the season

Hospitalization rate is linear.You repeat yourself, but again,wrong, it is growing exponentially

Death rate is linear.wrong, it is growing exponentially

Fatality rate below 1%.far too early to tell, hope you are right

Everything you've posted has been wrong.Everything I have posted over the last two weeks is on course but, unfortunately, accelerated. I hope as badly as you for that to change SOON.


Those predictions were/are for a course of 12 to 16 weeks beginning Mar 10.

Prediction was that US confirmed case load would double every four days.

Mar 10, 1000 cases
Mar 14, 3000 cases
Mar 18, 9000 cases plus
Mar 22, 33,000 cases plus
Mar 24, 54,800 cases

It appears that infection rate is more than tripling every four days rather than doubling. Far worse than expectations. But yes, some of that may be credited to increased testing rather than all being clinical diagnosis.

Still the fact that in the US we have 775 deaths vs 378 listed as recovered at this point should give one cause for reflection.

Death follows detection of illness by a couple weeks more or less. So the curve for death rate is behind the curve for infection rate by that amount of time.The proper comparison is 775 fatalities divided by the case load at the time those persons were discovered to be sick. 775 fatalities out of 55,000 sick today is meaningless as you have no idea how many of those 55,000 will die in the near future.

If you look at "Worldometer Covid 19 USA", all the stats are there. The data is graphed over time. It is very easy to read. The graph for rate of deaths in USA as that number reaches 550 (two days ago) is the very definition of exponential growth. As is the graph for confirmed cases.

I can not make the graphs copy and paste, or I would show them here. But they are easy to find.

If we have about 55,000 confirmed cases today and expect that to double every four days, and we use a 12 day infectious incubation period before symptoms appear, that means we have just a bit under 1/2 million infected people walking around today spreading their virus. 1/2 million who will be symptomatic by Apr 5.

Apr 5, we will have 4 million contagious individuals walking the streets.

Lord, I wish it were not so. I would love nothing more than to be wrong, for these numbers to not come true.


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Your wish has been granted.

Everything you posted is not so.

"Those predictions were/are for a course of 12 to 16 weeks beginning Mar 10."

Bullshit. You used the crap January date as the first infection date, and ran crap predictions from that.

You can't fake the death rate, and the fact that it is linear and not exponential, so you try and shift the focus to tests.

And the increase in confirmed tests is nothing more than a reflection of increased tests.

More bullshit.

BSometer is a crap lib site. No surprise it's your go to place.

They took down their statistics and graphs when they showed that the serious infections were 2% of the confirmed tests, and the graphs showed no exponential growth.

So even with the "confirmed tests" fraud, the serious cases were less than 3%.

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Originally Posted by Starman


Your drama queen statement was irrelevant in
terms of what really is relevant =Medical
fraternity standards and opinions concerning C19.


Several of your posts have been centred around the
mere potential effects of C19 toward the chronic health dramas in your life and your family tree. which
ain't the concern for the vast majority.

IF you are so worried, just isolate yourself
cause Nobody is going to put a gun to your head
to force you to go to work.


Again your lack of understanding and reasoning ability is on vivid display.

I use myself as an example of 10s of millions just like me in this nation. My concern is as much for their welfare as my own.

But one could hardly expect a self claimed liberal to understand concern for any but self.

As far as putting a gun to my head: when I make commitments, I honor those commitments. Again, something one could never expect a liberal to understand.


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