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I have heard Zero had a good time there. Didn't think you'da been able ta hear, what with your ears bein held in some guy's hands. Still got no arguments against the FACTS presented? This the best you can do? Carry on then. What ever it takes for you to get your jollies. Far be it from me to interrupt your fantasies. OH Tatoo!
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You cheatin on kinglib with Tattoo? That ain't right.
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In just a few more days we will all see what will happen. How many of the US deaths had severe illnesses or health complications already? It doesn’t make it OK , but it puts in it perspective.
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The new coronavirus may already have infected far more people in the UK than scientists had previously estimated — perhaps as much as half the population — according to modelling by researchers at the University of Oxford.
If the results are confirmed, they imply that fewer than one in a thousand of those infected with Covid-19 become ill enough to need hospital treatment, said Sunetra Gupta, professor of theoretical epidemiology, who led the study. The vast majority develop very mild symptoms or none at all.
“We need immediately to begin large-scale serological surveys — antibody testing — to assess what stage of the epidemic we are in now,” she said. Fewer that 1 per 1,000 who are infected become ill enough to need hospitalization. https://www.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-6dd8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b?shareType=nongiftOh, by the way commies, that is an OXFORD study just released. What that means for you idiot commies here, is that the majority are “silent attack”. That means people get infected, and never get sick and spread it while they all are now building immunity from the antibodies NOW IN THEIR BODIES. More than half of America is most likely carrying antibodies, and the above newly released FACTS from that OXFORD study is why they haven’t wanted to test for antibodies, because it would prove we are on the downside now and end the fear mongering, and stop the commie’s destruction of the economy dead in its tracks. Print that FACT you commie SOB’s and wrap it, and shove it where the sun doesn’t shine you commie SOB’s. Look it’s full of those hockey stick graphs you loath. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/rpxgwvws/271-C2-CAD-4-E10-46-DB-ACD3-89124-C266203.jpg) The cruise ship proves the above article correct, no matter how you attempt to attack it. LOW infection rate, and LOW death rate....FACTS Kill commie's lies.
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The new coronavirus may already have infected far more people in the UK than scientists had previously estimated — perhaps as much as half the population — according to modelling by researchers at the University of Oxford.
If the results are confirmed, they imply that fewer than one in a thousand of those infected with Covid-19 become ill enough to need hospital treatment, said Sunetra Gupta, professor of theoretical epidemiology, who led the study. The vast majority develop very mild symptoms or none at all.
“We need immediately to begin large-scale serological surveys — antibody testing — to assess what stage of the epidemic we are in now,” she said. Fewer that 1 per 1,000 who are infected become ill enough to need hospitalization. https://www.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-6dd8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b?shareType=nongiftOh, by the way commies, that is an OXFORD study just released. What that means for you idiot commies here, is that the majority are “silent attack”. That means people get infected, and never get sick and spread it while they all are now building immunity from the antibodies NOW IN THEIR BODIES. More than half of America is most likely carrying antibodies, and the above newly released FACTS from that OXFORD study is why they haven’t wanted to test for antibodies, because it would prove we are on the downside now and end the fear mongering, and stop the commie’s destruction of the economy dead in its tracks. Print that FACT you commie SOB’s and wrap it, and shove it where the sun doesn’t shine you commie SOB’s. See there you go, displaying your lack of intelligence which demands you use false accusations and name calling for lack of reasoning. Did you miss the extensive use of modifiers in your quote? MAY already have infected. PERHAPS as much as half According to MODELING They IMPLY IF the results are confirmed We need to BEGIN surveys That piece of rubbish is not worth the electrons it took to transmit it. Admittedly so by the author himself through the use of language. The cruise ship proves the above article correct, no matter how you attempt to attack it. LOW infection rate, and LOW death rate....FACTS Kill commie's lies. We will never know what the infection rate was on the cruise ship. The passengers were not tested for antibodies as they left the ship. We have no idea what portion of the crew and passengers were ever even exposed to the virus. Quarantine, you know! Each passenger in his cabin, one or two to a cabin. As soon as infection was discovered.
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A projection based on the optimistic hope of a four day doubling rate for deaths. Must be pathetic ta be optimistic about deaths doublin. But, whatever it takes to accomplish the liberal agenda. No doubt your "projections" will be as accurate as liberal "projections" bout global warmin. A doubling rate of four days is a hell of a lot more optimistic than the observed tripling rate of four days. Get back to me on the ninth of Apr and we will discuss how far my projections are BELOW actual data. Again, Lord, I hope I am far, far wrong. Nothing could make me happier. Where is the tripling rate of every four days? Source? Thank you See the quoted part of post 14703071 above. The data came from Worldometer. Check the graphs provided by other thoughtful participants. Damn, this thread is growing far faster than I can type, and I got to get up and go to work in six hours. No data . What specifically are you basing the tripling of deaths every few days on Italy?
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Elkplayer, I can entertain him easily enough with his favorite meme. Entertaining yourself is more like it, because you'll never beat me in a debate, because you're incapable of ever posting any facts to win......typical commie playbook, straight from Saul (commie) Alinsky, "Rules for Radicals".
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We will NEVER know how many Americans had this virus. Even the CDC says most people will have mild symptoms and recover at home. I don’t know about anyone else , but widespread antibody tests won’t happen imo. Without the data, any numbers based on cases aren’t valid.
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In just a few more days we will all see what will happen. How many of the US deaths had severe illnesses or health complications already? It doesn’t make it OK , but it puts in it perspective. Yes, it does. Just so we all remember that many, or most even, with comorbidities might have well lived into their eighties or (fewer) possibly nineties had they not caught this terrible virus. Some maybe robbed of a couple months, many more robbed of many years or possibly decades. Yes it is nature's way. But we should be taking any measures possible to mitigate the loss of life. A route that I am comfortable is being charted as well as possible by our esteemed President.
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Elkplayer, I can entertain him easily enough with his favorite meme. Entertaining yourself is more like it, because you'll never beat me in a debate, because you're incapable of ever posting any facts to win......typical commie playbook, straight from Saul (commie) Alinsky, "Rules for Radicals". Sputnik, when your Russian gang allows you to replace your jean vest patch that says “Little Bitch” we’ll debate....Until then, go clean the piss stalls and stfu...You’re an absolute Tool...😎
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[ the number of deaths from the virus is increasing exponentially and that has nothing to do with the tests unless the tests kill people. The number of deaths was never increasing exponentially, and is leveling off. You do understand that whatever the current state of the disease, its current state is the result of the unique nature of intervention in each locale.
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[ the number of deaths from the virus is increasing exponentially and that has nothing to do with the tests unless the tests kill people. The number of deaths was never increasing exponentially, and is leveling off. That's why the liberal focus has shifted to number of cases, instead of number of deaths. Look at the hockey stick plot of deaths in the UK from that Oxford study. Do you think its linear because its a straight line? The number of deaths is increasing exponentially, that is a semi-log plot.
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Has there been a death rate graph posted showing healthy individuals/to exclude individuals with preexisting conditions?
I retired from the Johns Manville asbestos pop tart factory in ‘59, and still never made the connection.—-Slumlord
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We will NEVER know how many Americans had this virus. Even the CDC says most people will have mild symptoms and recover at home. I don’t know about anyone else , but widespread antibody tests won’t happen imo. Without the data, any numbers based on cases aren’t valid. I hope we see random sampling of the population for antibodies sometime in the next six months to a year. If for no other reason than to predict herd immunity and possibility of a second wave of the virus hitting us again next year. As many have stated here, the one data point which will be uncontested will be the body count.
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So, are the sixty-five percenters ready to revisit the study Elkslayer91 cited in the article he cited?
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Has there been a death rate graph posted showing healthy individuals/to exclude individuals with preexisting conditions? Worldometer has some of that data available. I have seen some charts, but I do not remember seeing that for US.
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We will NEVER know how many Americans had this virus. Even the CDC says most people will have mild symptoms and recover at home. I don’t know about anyone else , but widespread antibody tests won’t happen imo. Without the data, any numbers based on cases aren’t valid. Interesting. The MSM tonight, ABC I believe we watch, said they are working on a test that is designed to work with antibodies, and will be cheap and quick. Will be fun to see who gets tested and when. Maybe it will be "essential" folks first? Geno
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In just a few more days we will all see what will happen. How many of the US deaths had severe illnesses or health complications already? It doesn’t make it OK , but it puts in it perspective. Yes, it does. Just so we all remember that many, or most even, with comorbidities might have well lived into their eighties or (fewer) possibly nineties had they not caught this terrible virus. Some maybe robbed of a couple months, many more robbed of many years or possibly decades. Yes it is nature's way. But we should be taking any measures possible to mitigate the loss of life. A route that I am comfortable is being charted as well as possible by our esteemed President. Actually, respectfully, no we should not be taking any measure possible. In this country every day ,loss of life is weighed against factors. For example, it is a given a certain amount of people will get cancer and die every year just from pumping gasoline into their vehicles (the list very long) . Risks are part of everyday life. Many Americans aren’t comfortable literally shutting down the economy because it MIGHT save a life. Crazy stuff 😄
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[ the number of deaths from the virus is increasing exponentially and that has nothing to do with the tests unless the tests kill people. The number of deaths was never increasing exponentially, and is leveling off. You do understand that whatever the current state of the disease, its current state is the result of the unique nature of intervention in each locale. Aarrrggghhhh, it's all too confusing my head hurts. Somewhere, the Great Statistician is watching all this unfold. And will have an answer when we are ready for it. Of course, to be given only to certain ones of us. Geno
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