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Who knows. I suppose they could figure out a way for everyone to get tested. How much will that *cost* and wfsts the most economical way to administer the tests properly? Costs of the test itself aside, will the Walmart self checkout give us the test?

I have never written of Italy. All my data is in reference to US.
Mar 16, 86 deaths in US
Mar 20, 256 deaths in US
Mar 24, 775 deaths in US

These numbers are cumulative and come from Worldometer Covid 19 United States.

Good night all.

Yeah, I think there was this study back in the 70's that provided limited data that a 55 MPH speed limit, when enforced and obeyed saved lives.


But dang were people PO'd about it.

So it's back to 70+ on the fwy in most places.

Angel of Death be damned,


Geno

A straight Body count alone isn’t good enough I don’t believe. It won’t be that black and white. What if someone had part of a lung removed because of cancer and got the virus? A cigarette smoker? On Oxygen already? Diabetic?

Might save a life? That is one thing.
Might save 100,000 lives? That is something else.
Might save 1,000,000 lives? Now we are talking about a big deal.

Cue “Life in the Fastlane “ YouTube video 😂

I agree

Lots of people live very productive lives for ten, twenty, thirty even forty years with one or more of the conditions you mention. Many of them fully employed for many of those years.

It is hard to draw a line to determine the disposable portion of society.

The above is a not true at all.

FACTS:
1 – The people got attacked early by “silent attack”, and reached immunity (antibodies), and by the time they were tested, their RNA was negative.

2 – It was proven the turd world wait staff employees feeding them were spreading the virus to all passengers when dropping their food off. Passengers could not spread from room to room. As they were exposed every feeding the ship acquired an 80% immunity on board.

3 – Same wait staff, so no passenger could be safe from being exposed.

4 – Identification of cases proved it was everywhere on the ship, but 80% didn’t get it. How? They’d already built immunity, because they were seropositive.

5 - LOW DEATH RATE, and LOW infection rate. FACTS MATTER.

Geno, we are off topic, but mostly I remember that study showed 55 saved a lot of gas. Especially when everybody drove six thousand pounds of Detroit Steel with 400 plus cubic inches under the hood and the drag coefficient of a cinder block.

It will be easy enough to test everyone.

When they line us up for the bar code tattoos they can give us the test, no?

Joking. Honestly, if they test enough folks in enough different areas of the US they will have a pretty good idea statistically what the actual numbers are.

Generally, there is no need to take every marble out of a sack of black and white marbles to determine if it's a 50-50 mix. You can get close enough with sampling.

And what will the costs be for not testing a bunch of folks? Well, if we've done a pretty good job of "self quarantining", then we will have a high proportion of naive subjects when it comes around again. Might be cheaper to know what we're dealing with, eh?

Of course, if the gooberment does it, it will cost us in taxes. If private industry does it, it will cost us as individuals to get tested, maybe more than the .gov way as there will be profit involved, and likely cost us again in tax incentives the gooberment will have to give the companies involved to get them involved in the first place.

One thing's for sure, it won't be "free"............like that $1200 we all gettin'

Free money bro, free money.

Geno

I’m not indicating any of those scenarios make someone disposable. For the diabetes, I only mention that because I thought I read it was really h ell on diabetics.

The difference between personal choice and consequences and societal choice and consequences, is the latter is done by someone else. Really, in every case, it’s done by someone else, no matter your level of engagement. Regardless of the outcome, this chapter is likely to be one of the greatest events of our lives. More than what it is, but how we react to it, will set a vector for our society.

There is an entire industry devoted to quantifying this stuff. None of these details will be lost on health insurer’s actuarial arms.

I just see this as a recession with a bunch of folks wanting the gov to tell them what to do more often.

I have looked and looked for data confirming antibody tests and been unable to find it. Can you provide a link?

Among 3700 passengers and crew, 712 tested positive for Covid 19. Of those 712, 9 died. That is a bit over 1% fatality rate.

Does not say anything about the other 3000 testing positive for antibodies to show they had ever been exposed. So I am interested in facts vs supposition.

Yes, I have read that as well.

We are in the beginning- middle of the reaction right now. Lots of factors involved. Depressed economies ‘ and loss of rights’ “buttons” should not be pressed too many times right now.

Your graphs showing exponential spikes are worthless, being they fail to show the people who:

1 - Become slightly sick, and recover at home.
2 - Infected and never have symptoms.

The above are not included in the graphs, therefore skewing the denominator number, which invalidates the whole model and invalidates your position.

Is this Sheldon ?