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Originally Posted by shaman
I had a cloud over me, because my previous employer would only verify dates of employment and nothing else. .

This is SOP.
My wife has been instructed by the legal department where she works, that for liability reasons, when contacted about the performance of a previous employee, she is to only verify dates of employment, nothing more.


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Yeah, but when you're laid off, you ( or at least I) walk away with a nice letter explaining that it was Reduction in Force or Elimination of Position or something like that. If you're canned outright, there's a blank there that doesn't go unnoticed. I was at the top of a Fortune 500 IT dept., and I'd been tapped to be IT Director for a large division in a new company. It made for a tough bounce. I knew it was coming, and I didn't flinch.

On the other hand, I had the father of a friend who was in far higher a position in IT for a much larger company. He was tricked into moving his whole IT staff to another city. They waited until everyone was settled and then RIF'd them all and gave my buddy's dad a promotion. It left the guy completely broken. He resigned and never worked again.

Look, a guy that far up in the Navy should not have gone to the media. However, I understand him sacrificing his career for those under his command. I can't imagine how a man in that position could live if he'd let sailors die knowing there was an alternative. The Navy should have anticipated circumstances. I'm sure they have gamed this thing out before. I knew someone who was on the TR years ago. He was regularly sent to special exercises where they'd sit around for a week doing things like discussing The Caine Mutiny and 12 O'Clock High and their relation to contemporary warfare. Plague on a warship is not a new concept.


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whenever i had a past or departing employee ask for a letter of reference, i did what one of my past bosses told me to do, 'you write the letter and i'll sign it'.


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Originally Posted by Pugs
I suspect that we're getting part of the story.

I sincerely doubt the Capt did not go up through his chain of command, it's baked in his genes, and unless they have evidence that he sent the letter to the media its a typical Navy move. Could have easily been someone else on the cc line of his message that spilled it. There are no shortage of officers in the Navy who think their career depends on stepping on others.

If the CoC did blow him off and he felt he had no option but to go public, well, he knew he was going to fall on his sword and he can look in the mirror with pride that he did what he thought the right thing was.

Carrier CO's are not politically ignorant.

most likely what happened based on people i've talked to


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Why in hell's name did the TR have a 5 day liberty call in Da Nang Vietnam with the virus raging in nearby China?? "

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