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DEATH be not proud...

My dad, at 86 years of age has gained enough fuggin knowledge over those 86 years to know that he needs to keep the hell away from most everybody and shelter his azz at home right now.
So NO face to face with him currently, would it work over the phone, face time maybe?

Vaccination does not necessarily need to be more than year out. Conventional testing and protocols of vaccines have an objective of minimizing the harm or potential harm they may do. The are parts of the development cycle that we may be able to shorten considerably with little or no risk and there are parts which we may be able to shorten by taking a calculated risk.

Even were we to abandon all control measures and let a million or more people die that isn't going end us. That is not and should not be something we give much consideration to in that we as a nation are pretty good at solving problems. Particularly since we have the ability now today to prevent a lot of needless death.

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Dad is 75. If I was dying of Covid he would still want to have coffee.

Old saying in the USAF: "If you're not terrified, you don't understand the situation".

I'm soon to be 80 years old and, while I hate to say I'm terrified, I am being very cautious about what I do and where I go, if anywhere.

I pretty much resent the azzhats on this board and elsewhere who complain that their ability to make a buck is more important than my life and that I should just keel over and die so they can go get rich.

Mine retired[from here] 2 years ago, we had coffee every workday for 35+ years, he did the same with his dad.

Hey...I supported the shut down.



I also support a metered and logical approach to getting things going again.


WTF is wrong with that?

We actually suggested to my folks that we, (wife and kids) would gladly stay away until this all sorted itself out.



They said BS. Bring them kids up.

I pretty much resent the fact that my family business is most likely going under after this fiasco, a family business that is older than you.
Getting rich, that's RICH!

Another swing and a miss. Do you get tired of embarrassing yourself? - Rhetorical. No answer needed.

I most definitely do not belong to the "let 'em die" brigade. I would say that while we base our opinions on human emotion and thought, nature does not, it has its own agenda. I wonder if this isn't natures way of trying to protect itself, not so much by thinning the herd, but forcing us to step back from our way of living and the effects that it has on nature itself - witness the clearing of air and cleaning of water that is being reported. Just a thought, and one not from a very sharp mind at that.

No one??

Most are say to take precautions and protect the vulnerable, but there is no need to lock down those who are not at risk. It seems there could be a middle ground.

Now that we've learned some things, it's time to start the process of getting back[I said process].

Because that is the way morality works. Coloring morality in varying shades of grey is a one way ticket to perdition.

A Dr. performing triage in the yard is one thing. Painting red slashes across the foreheads of the community for selective execution is something different.

The pork plan is not unique. I worked at Medtronic for a few years. I also worked for a few other companies. Their ability to distance works id not any more easily accomplished than Smithfield's, maybe less in many cases. 50 million people dying in the early 1900s is not a lesson to you of what can happen???

The very low penetration of Covid 19 into Minnesota is because we have implemented well considered measures to limit that spread. Those measures came not from the governor, he merely directed their implementation.

Your failure to comprehend any of the items I listed out for you is kind of pathetic You keep running your mouth and don't take the time to understand whet you are talking about is more than pathetic in and of itself, it reflects on you as an individual and THAT is pathetic. Think about it. Behavior is one thing and can be corrected.

Well, since there is no middle ground, what next? Kill all the old people so we can get back to work?


Since there is no middle ground and all.


Sorta how the Turks handled the Armenians? No Armenians....no reason for a Russian invasion.

One of the assisted living centers in town has an outbreak right now....of 75 cases! I personally know a guy whose mother passed yesterday at this facility. She was elderly, had pnemonia and also tested positive for Covid. Would she have died if she hadn't contracted the virus? No one knows for sure but it didn't help.

There is going to have to be a balance, we cant stay closed for months on end without serious long term economic impacts. Someone on the Fire said it best in that there are those who are low risk health-wise that are at most risk financially, while those out of the work force are likely higher risk. We have to get the economy going again and soon or the fallout will be worse than the virus itself.

So what is the better alternative[no animosity from here]

Quarantine a few for the good of many, or quarantine all[and while doing so completely wreck the economy]?

It's academic at this point as the long term permanent damage is done.

Who takes care of the old people when the young are broke and need cared for?


Maybe China?