|
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 20,263 Likes: 18
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 20,263 Likes: 18 |
Over the years I've had two pictures of my DIY dead critters show up on outfitter's websites, plus one more taken by an individual on this site and posted as his....always good for a laugh.
I wouldn't be surprised if Qwerk pulls that kind of stunt.....something about a pot and a kettle comes to mind.
Ted, I just read this....Who swiped your horns? That’s absolutely ridiculous! If you don’t want to say, that’s cool. Maybe post the old thread. I’m just SMH thinking what kind of ass-tool a guy has to be, to claim someone else’s bone as his....L-O-S-E-R 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏽♀️😎 PM sent.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 21,199
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 21,199 |
WELCOME BACK JOHN BURNS!!!!!!
Sincerely, it's been too long.
Ya I like John burns actually, he’s one guy I’d like to bullshiit someday I love bullshitting.  We can talk tannin beds, fuuckers will really be upset!!! 😂😂😂
Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 21,199
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 21,199 |
Over the years I've had two pictures of my DIY dead critters show up on outfitter's websites, plus one more taken by an individual on this site and posted as his....always good for a laugh.
I wouldn't be surprised if Qwerk pulls that kind of stunt.....something about a pot and a kettle comes to mind.
Ted, I just read this....Who swiped your horns? That’s absolutely ridiculous! If you don’t want to say, that’s cool. Maybe post the old thread. I’m just SMH thinking what kind of ass-tool a guy has to be, to claim someone else’s bone as his....L-O-S-E-R 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏽♀️😎 PM sent. That’s the ugly black eye of “guiding “ mark, fuuckers lie like a sumbitch
Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 20,263 Likes: 18
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 20,263 Likes: 18 |
WELCOME BACK JOHN BURNS!!!!!!
Sincerely, it's been too long.
Ya I like John burns actually, he’s one guy I’d like to bullshiit someday He can come off as an ass, but when conversing with him like SLM and I did above, his responses are perfectly courteous. I've never had an issue at least.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,535 Likes: 3
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,535 Likes: 3 |
John,You are wrong. A sfp scope will have A different poi at different powers when you dial. Same with wind. Come on! You know that. That is the reason people shooting distance shoot ffp scopes. I don't care what you like, or what you shoot, but you can't change facts just because you don't like ffp scopes.
Care to keep guessing again?  John, I think he's talking about dialing the magnification ring, not the ele. turret.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 4,070
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 4,070 |
Jud, let me ring out one of your Leups this fall? It'd make an entertaining afternoon.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,478
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,478 |
John,You are wrong. A sfp scope will have A different poi at different powers when you dial. Same with wind. Come on! You know that. That is the reason people shooting distance shoot ffp scopes. I don't care what you like, or what you shoot, but you can't change facts just because you don't like ffp scopes.
Care to keep guessing again? John, I think he's talking about dialing the magnification ring, not the ele. turret. Bingo!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 12,155 Likes: 16
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 12,155 Likes: 16 |
John,You are wrong. A sfp scope will have A different poi at different powers when you dial. Same with wind. Come on! You know that. That is the reason people shooting distance shoot ffp scopes. I don't care what you like, or what you shoot, but you can't change facts just because you don't like ffp scopes.
Care to keep guessing again? John, I think he's talking about dialing the magnification ring, not the ele. turret.
Ya, being able to dial my sfp scope at only one power instead of at every power is a real plus....
Are you sure about that, Jordan? 
John Burns
I have all the sources.
They can't stop the signal.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 148
Campfire Member
|
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 148 |
Yep. I'll add leading trotters to the "hold for wind" equation. Multiple targets at varying distances from 50 out to 350-400 or so, my hand tends to go towards the mag ring, rather than towards a turret. I tend to balance FOV vs ease of viewing mil dot spacing. Even so, my current .308 load allows holding via mildots to 700ish with the humble Gen-1 mil reticle it sports. "engage multiple targets with one shot each, where each target is at a different distance and there is a large margin for elevation error."......... "and even then I'll often dial in some elevation just to get my holds near an even hash mark, if necessary." .... "Other than these very specific cases, dial elevation and hold wind."....
Low speed, high drag
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 22,940 Likes: 16
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 22,940 Likes: 16 |
John,You are wrong. A sfp scope will have A different poi at different powers when you dial. Same with wind. Come on! You know that. That is the reason people shooting distance shoot ffp scopes. I don't care what you like, or what you shoot, but you can't change facts just because you don't like ffp scopes.
Care to keep guessing again? John, I think he's talking about dialing the magnification ring, not the ele. turret.
Ya, being able to dial my sfp scope at only one power instead of at every power is a real plus....
Are you sure about that, Jordan? Maybe he means the focus ring? WTF knows?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,965 Likes: 4
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,965 Likes: 4 |
John,You are wrong. A sfp scope will have A different poi at different powers when you dial. Same with wind. Come on! You know that. That is the reason people shooting distance shoot ffp scopes. I don't care what you like, or what you shoot, but you can't change facts just because you don't like ffp scopes.
Care to keep guessing again? John, I think he's talking about dialing the magnification ring, not the ele. turret.
Ya, being able to dial my sfp scope at only one power instead of at every power is a real plus....
Are you sure about that, Jordan? The ability to dial has zero bearing on SFP or FFP. He is talking BS
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 20,263 Likes: 18
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 20,263 Likes: 18 |
The last thing I want to do is go pound some posts in for a new hitching rail in my corrals, so here I sit drinking coffee and scratching my head trying to decipher atse's "dialing" point.
I most certainly did NOT read his post in that he was talking about "dialing" the magnification ring.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 18,929 Likes: 1
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 18,929 Likes: 1 |
Get your ass out there and get it done.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 20,263 Likes: 18
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 20,263 Likes: 18 |
No.
There's a 6 pack and can of Cope in it for you if you take care of it instead.
Suck it.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,478
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,478 |
The last thing I want to do is go pound some posts in for a new hitching rail in my corrals, so here I sit drinking coffee and scratching my head trying to decipher atse's "dialing" point.
I most certainly did NOT read his post in that he was talking about "dialing" the magnification ring.
I will try to clarify a couple points. My comment on dialing a sfp scope was a sarcastic remark in regards to one of John's earlier posts. It was not meant literally. Second, I used a poor choice when I said dialing magnification. Should have said changing magnification and dialing elevation. I simply meant through all of this that a ffp scope can have its magnification turned to any power and elevation dialed and shots on target will be the same. With a sfp scope, this is not the case. Sorry for the poor word choice. Hope that helps.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 10,697
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 10,697 |
Gotta luv the Optics forum! lol
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,778 Likes: 2
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,778 Likes: 2 |
I simply meant through all of this that a ffp scope can have its magnification turned to any power and elevation dialed and shots on target will be the same. With a sfp scope, this is not the case. Sorry for the poor word choice. Hope that helps. Doesn't help. You lost me.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 20,263 Likes: 18
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 20,263 Likes: 18 |
The last thing I want to do is go pound some posts in for a new hitching rail in my corrals, so here I sit drinking coffee and scratching my head trying to decipher atse's "dialing" point.
I most certainly did NOT read his post in that he was talking about "dialing" the magnification ring.
I will try to clarify a couple points. My comment on dialing a sfp scope was a sarcastic remark in regards to one of John's earlier posts. It was not meant literally. Second, I used a poor choice when I said dialing magnification. Should have said changing magnification and dialing elevation. I simply meant through all of this that a ffp scope can have its magnification turned to any power and elevation dialed and shots on target will be the same. With a sfp scope, this is not the case. Sorry for the poor word choice. Hope that helps. While I appreciate the clarification, I must say that this is still a head scratcher. Are you saying that with a SFP scope, as you turn magnification up or down, that the elevation erector changes values with each click? So at X magnification each click would be 1/4 MOA, but at Y magnification each click would be 1 MOA and so on? Both FFP and SFP "should" have the same erector correctional values per click of the turret, regardless of what magnification it is set at. By "dialing elevation", you're not talking about the reticle sub tensions changing in relation to the magnification setting, right?
Last edited by T_Inman; 04/19/20. Reason: trying to keep [i]myself[/i] from confusion...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 148
Campfire Member
|
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 148 |
One hopes atse was referring to SFP reticle sub tension ranging values changing with magnification, rather than turret clicks on either type of focal plane.
I often, as well, have a hard time translating thoughts/doings into written words.
Low speed, high drag
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 18,929 Likes: 1
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 18,929 Likes: 1 |
No Natural Light this time you cheap basterd. No.
There's a 6 pack and can of Cope in it for you if you take care of it instead.
Suck it.
|
|
|
|
|
576 members (1badf350, 1lesfox, 12344mag, 10gaugemag, 160user, 007FJ, 66 invisible),
2,590
guests, and
1,221
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,192,927
Posts18,498,596
Members73,983
| |
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|
