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Everybody wants cops and military to train more until they see the bill.
Then they're like "uhhh, never mind."
How about paying the bill while watching these [bleep] stand around for an entire day trading cop stories RATHER THAN SHOOTING? This is what I witness on the range where I am a member, various LEO from all over the area (county SO deputies, feds, PD) congregate on "range day" and participate in socializing with very little shooting. What concerns me more than the waste of taxpayer funds is the lack of training going on. The money is already spent- now how about some actual work being performed? Tell the truth...Were you more pissed that the cops claimed the range for the day, did little shooting, so you couldn’t shoot the course of fire that one day because of them? Or, is it really about the money? We pay a ton of taxes to educate other people’s children and based on what I’m seeing, we’re not getting our monies worth both from school districts and kids. 😎
Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”
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Just because you are a police officer doesn’t automatically make you a good shot.
Indeed. Have any of you shot with LEO and your local range. Even in a non-stressed range environment, not great, in fact often times scary. Oh, and the, "It cost money to train these officers, money we don't have" - "We can't afford to go practice shooting on our own dime" it all bull schit. If you are going to carry a firearm, learn how to use it and use it well, otherwise don't carry one. I have never seem them on the 25 yard range.
Ideas are far more powerful than guns, We dont let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas. "Joseph Stalin"
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Well, they got some.practice in. Practice Reinforcing bad habits? Unless part of their training is to use show of force to scare an uncertain threat (inferior force) into submission... Attempted suicide by cop?? What did he hope to accomplish? High on drugs? What's the explanation for this guy taking on cops with a pellet gun? I wondered that too. I didn't see anyone nearby (body cam probably showed at least a 270 degree view with the move from one end of the car to the other) so where was the urgency in the response? The video mentions multiple 911 calls stating he was waiving it around and point it at people. If you pause the video when the cop starts firing, you can see the suspects weapon pointed right at the cop. I heard that.. Guess I need a bigger screen. But as Paul said maybe they got too close too soon, which is why I mentioned not seeing anyone around, as if he moved to a remote area, or the callers had driven by..
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"If memory serves fails me..." Quote: ( unnamed) "been prtty deep in the cooler todaay " Television and radio are most effective when people question little and think even less.
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Everybody wants cops and military to train more until they see the bill.
Then they're like "uhhh, never mind."
How about paying the bill while watching these [bleep] stand around for an entire day trading cop stories RATHER THAN SHOOTING? This is what I witness on the range where I am a member, various LEO from all over the area (county SO deputies, feds, PD) congregate on "range day" and participate in socializing with very little shooting. What concerns me more than the waste of taxpayer funds is the lack of training going on. The money is already spent- now how about some actual work being performed? Tell the truth...Were you more pissed that the cops claimed the range for the day, did little shooting, so you couldn’t shoot the course of fire that one day because of them? Or, is it really about the money? We pay a ton of taxes to educate other people’s children and based on what I’m seeing, we’re not getting our monies worth both from school districts and kids. 😎 The truth is that he doesn't know the truth. He only knows his bias.
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The truth is that he doesn't know the truth. He only knows his bias.
These are the same geniuses that complain about DHS purchasing large quantities of ammo.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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...."2 cops, 50 shots, zero solid hits"...
That would seem to shoot a lot of holes in the notion that the police are out to have fun killing citizens, now wouldn't it?
Seems to me they were doing their best to keep the encounter 'non-lethal'
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The truth is that he doesn't know the truth. He only knows his bias.
These are the same geniuses that complain about DHS purchasing large quantities of ammo. 55,000 armed personal in DHS. If they each shot 100 rounds every two weeks, or 2,600 rounds a year, that's only 143 million rounds. Heck, it's 3 million rounds for each to just have 3 loaded pistol mags.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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The truth is that he doesn't know the truth. He only knows his bias.
These are the same geniuses that complain about DHS purchasing large quantities of ammo. I want those bastards to become experts on their own dime.
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Hey, the cops were just trying to wound him. Good shootin. Looked like an auto was stopped down the street. Bet the occupants were full of Zeros.
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Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
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"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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The truth is that he doesn't know the truth. He only knows his bias.
These are the same geniuses that complain about DHS purchasing large quantities of ammo. 55,000 armed personal in DHS. If they each shot 100 rounds every two weeks, or 2,600 rounds a year, that's only 143 million rounds. Heck, it's 3 million rounds for each to just have 3 loaded pistol mags. No offense, but you're getting dumber by the day. And your lack of life experience is glaring.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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The truth is that he doesn't know the truth. He only knows his bias.
These are the same geniuses that complain about DHS purchasing large quantities of ammo. 55,000 armed personal in DHS. If they each shot 100 rounds every two weeks, or 2,600 rounds a year, that's only 143 million rounds. Heck, it's 3 million rounds for each to just have 3 loaded pistol mags. No offense, but you're getting dumber by the day. And your lack of life experience is glaring. Travis, Once again you failed to comprehend the implications of my post, or perhaps you're just not following the conversation. Of course the typical member of the ore than 55,000 armed law enforcement officers of the DHS don't expend 100 rounds on a bi-weekly basis. I never said they did, an an above IQ person reading my post in context should understand I was providing a base line ammo consumption figure for a regular range time. I was just adding a little perspective, but apparently even minor abstractions escape you.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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Your lack of life experience is glaring.
You've never managed ammo count for anything. Much less DHS.
Your post is nothing short of idiotic.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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The truth is that he doesn't know the truth. He only knows his bias.
These are the same geniuses that complain about DHS purchasing large quantities of ammo. Good for Olin stock.. Hey, the cops were just trying to wound him. Good shootin. Looked like an auto was stopped down the street. Bet the occupants were full of Zeros. I thought the only hits were from the pellet gun? Maybe I misread.. Which way Jag? Cause I am pretty sure I saw the officers shooting up the road both directions..another reason I was thinking no one around... I would be surprised to see a video released where shots are taken in the general direction of civilians...
-OMotS
"If memory serves fails me..." Quote: ( unnamed) "been prtty deep in the cooler todaay " Television and radio are most effective when people question little and think even less.
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I thought the only hits were from the pellet gun? Maybe I misread...
Make way for Mr. Gunfighter.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I thought the only hits were from the pellet gun? Maybe I misread...
Make way for Mr. Gunfighter. Wasn't that text shown on the cut between the footage and the guy in the red shirt? Did it stop raining down your way yet?
-OMotS
"If memory serves fails me..." Quote: ( unnamed) "been prtty deep in the cooler todaay " Television and radio are most effective when people question little and think even less.
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Wasn't that text shown on the cut between the footage and the guy in the red shirt?
Did it stop raining down your way yet?
The perp was hit four times. I don't know. I haven't gone outside since The Corona started.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Late April? Florida? If it’s raining ya need to be outside with binocs, the Spring migrant fallout could be tremendous.
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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Late April? Florida? If it’s raining ya need to be outside with binocs, the Spring migrant fallout could be tremendous. Tell me about it. I setup two bird feeders a couple months back. I’d tell you how many buckets I’ve filled with dead birds but I’m afraid nobody would believe me.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Late April? Florida? If it’s raining ya need to be outside with binocs, the Spring migrant fallout could be tremendous. Tell me about it. I setup two bird feeders a couple months back. I’d tell you how many buckets I’ve filled with dead birds but I’m afraid nobody would believe me. LOLOLOL Blow guns might add an exciting new twist to the game. I can't say with any degree of authority though.
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Wasn't that text shown on the cut between the footage and the guy in the red shirt?
Did it stop raining down your way yet?
The perp was hit four times. I don't know. I haven't gone outside since The Corona started. I stand corrected.... Sounds like you need some vitamin D and fresh air.....
-OMotS
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