Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire 2 cops, 50 shots, zero solid hits.

My experience is the most unsafe and generally average at best shooters on the range are cops, military and gun store/internet know it all's.

As I observed,

Well ya because most of these tards have negative encounters with the law....because they are retarded.

Cause unlike regular civilians the union will back incompetent cops
no matter what and the city will pay his costs and collateral damages.

Soccer moms rule the range!

There are those that don't much need to but still do -
and those that clearly do need to - but don't.



Good grief, you sound like a below average person.

We have many highly competitive officers, private security, and retired military who are very good. They are the ones that take an active role in running things and most are instructors and participate in action league night.

I have also seen the other end where a local officer could not dispatch a road (near) kill from six feet.

As a range instructor we see many levels of skill sets. Some are really good and alot are just trying to shoot well enough to qualify. Training time has been cut due to covid and the fall training schedule is filled to the brim due to all spring training being canceled.Hiring is tough and retention is just as tough. People love to complain about the cops, it is a fact of the times.

I can live with that.

I got curious, seems like this was rural Oklahoma so I would think them two Cops grew up with firearms.

Sequoya County, Oklahoma.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequoyah_County,_Oklahoma#History

Mostly poor, rural, 70% White, 20% Indian, one in six families below the poverty line.

But Democrats outnumbering Republicans 52% to 32%?

There's a puzzle, didn't think there were enough Indians for that.

Yep. They think cop pay is great, the work is easy, that they know more than cops, cop pensions are BS, anyone can do it, etc. Were that the case you'd think they'd make a career out of it and make the world a much better place. But they don't.

From what I have seen Paul is a better human being than I am.

All of this does bring up the question of how is a LEO supposed to exit a vehicle while under fire from a perp firing upon them with a longarm?

Hit what they're aiming at of course, preferably with their own longarm. Sure seems like a tough situation to drive up on tho, if the bad guy woulda had an AR 15 he coulda taken out both Cops right at the start.

^^^ From very far away. Preferably find reverse if you're too close and park at an angle so you can roll out with the car between you and the bad guy with a long arm.

are you seriously suggesting those officers were
mentally juggling/fervently considering all those issues you listed as they drew their weapons?

Waaaay ahead of ya' buddy.

Paul Barnard, thanks that's what I was thinking but not saying. I have said it before,train up, suit up and show us how to do the job, Quit running your suck and show me. For those that hate us so much... please go and handle your problems on your own. they are much wiser and experienced then I. See how that works out for you. Quit paying taxes,remember that's my salary. We do our best each tour we work but, in the end we are all flawed products and that speaks to our results. People are the most interesting part of my job and the most frustrating! But it is all I know and I am near the end of this ride. Thank God! Blue

Stick to things you know.

Whatever that might be.

Folks in all kinds of fields make what are called
sacrifices to improve their careers and abilities.

Nobody gets anywhere without some form of sacrifice.

Whether one is a lousy tradesman cause of lack
of training and can't well provide for their family
as result.. Or if one is LE and gets killed due to
lousy shooting skills leaving a family behind...

The message is the same =
Take responsibility for yourself and situation.