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Tell us more about something you've never done.... More about firing a handgun inside a closed car? Sure! I have owned or regularly slept with the owners of six maybe seven vehicles in my life, although in fairness that AMC Scout back in college was so rusted out it didn't really count as a "closed vehicle", especially after an Indian Indian roommate, who had never driven a car, sideswiped a stop sign when I was letting him try and knocked out a rear side window. OK, how about you? Seriously. You ever fire any gun at all inside a closed vehicle?
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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Perhaps a shotgun would have worked better. I think you'll find that many patrol officers don't have ready access to a shotgun. Why not? I later qualified the comment by saying unless things have changed in the past 15 years. 15 years ago most of the patrol officers I knew (along the Gulf Coast) didn't have a shotgun in the cab of their vehicle. Some had them in their trunks. That may have changed. Current LEOs should be able to speak better to what's going on in the field today. I wouldn't give a damn whether they issued me one or not, I'd bring my own.
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Tell us more about something you've never done.... More about firing a handgun inside a closed car? Sure! I have owned or regularly slept with the owners of six maybe seven vehicles in my life, although in fairness that AMC Scout back in college was so rusted out it didn't really count as a "closed vehicle", especially after an Indian Indian roommate, who had never driven a car, sideswiped a stop sign when I was letting him try and knocked out a rear side window. OK, how about you? Seriously. You ever fire any gun at all inside a closed vehicle? I made the mistake of touching off a 22-250 out the right hand side of a pickup without getting the muzzle all the way out the window. Won't do that again. 😁
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Tell us more about something you've never done.... More about firing a handgun inside a closed car? Sure! I have owned or regularly slept with the owners of six maybe seven vehicles in my life, although in fairness that AMC Scout back in college was so rusted out it didn't really count as a "closed vehicle", especially after an Indian Indian roommate, who had never driven a car, sideswiped a stop sign when I was letting him try and knocked out a rear side window. OK, how about you? Seriously. You ever fire any gun at all inside a closed vehicle? I made the mistake of touching off a 22-250 out the right hand side of a pickup without getting the muzzle all the way out the window. Won't do that again. 😁 Wow - same here. Same scenario. Except mine was a .223. And, you're right - won't ever happen again.
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Lol....you ain't gonna ever see the people that done it, talkin' about it, though there will always be some that claim it.
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Let's add in what John the video narration guy says.. .
General word of warning concerning John boy other videos he suggests firing through ones windshield, in your OP vid. he says the opposite. How is the average armed good citizen supposed to figure what they should after listening to him? I wasn't commenting on his advice, but his observations of the encounters he's reviewed. But to answer you strawman, I think you need to make up your own mind for your situation.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Tell us more about something you've never done.... More about firing a handgun inside a closed car? Sure! I have owned or regularly slept with the owners of six maybe seven vehicles in my life, although in fairness that AMC Scout back in college was so rusted out it didn't really count as a "closed vehicle", especially after an Indian Indian roommate, who had never driven a car, sideswiped a stop sign when I was letting him try and knocked out a rear side window. OK, how about you? Seriously. You ever fire any gun at all inside a closed vehicle? Ya, it doesn't blow your ear drums out...
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Perhaps a shotgun would have worked better. i was just about to say the same thing
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Lol....you ain't gonna ever see the people that done it, talkin' about it, though there will always be some that claim it. Really?
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I have a good friend who, when out at the ranch, shot himself through the foot with a .22 magnum revolver, miraculously it was through and through with no phalanges broken. Alcohol may have been a factor, and I'm pretty sure the driver's side window of his pickup was rolled down at the time.
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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I wasn't commenting on his advice, but his observations of the encounters he's reviewed. But to answer you strawman, I think you need to make up your own mind for your situation.
Its the case with John boy that his perception of what he has at times observed are based on his own wild ass conjecture... apon which he then provides his tactical advice.
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Ya, it doesn't blow your ear drums out... OK, if you'd care to expound upon this, why did you discharge a firearm inside a closed vehicle and what sort of firearm was it? Also, has it had any permanent effect on your hearing? Clint and his Dirty Harry movies led to considerable hearing loss amid the Boomer generation here in Texas, when everybody had to have a Model 29 at a time when earplugs were for weenies. And that was shooting outside.
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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Lol....you ain't gonna ever see the people that done it, talkin' about it, though there will always be some that claim it. Really? War? Yeah. Shooting themselves in the foot? Maybe. Lot of people lie to make themselves feel big. Really.
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I wasn't commenting on his advice, but his observations of the encounters he's reviewed. But to answer you strawman, I think you need to make up your own mind for your situation.
Its the case with John boy that his perception of what he has at times observed are based on his own wild ass conjecture. For back of the envelope math and the discussion here's it's plenty good. If you feel otherwise, please watch all 2500 video's and give us a full tally. We await your findings.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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^^^ From very far away. Preferably find reverse if you're too close and park at an angle so you can roll out with the car between you and the bad guy with a long arm. Another gunfighter. Super. I looked but couldn't find the deflave sarcasm emoticon. Will this one do?
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Lol....you ain't gonna ever see the people that done it, talkin' about it, though there will always be some that claim it. Really? War? Yeah. Shooting themselves in the foot? Maybe. Lot of people lie to make themselves feel big. Really. With my friend he said it happened when he was attempting to put a Ruger Single Six (?) back in the holster while sitting in his truck. Known him for about 35 years now, this was before I got here. Never have asked to see the scar.
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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For back of the envelope math and the discussion here's it's plenty good. If you feel otherwise, please watch all 2500 video's and give us a full tally.
We await your findings.
You cite the FBI data as a reliable source I gather, so why should anyone need to repeat what Utube sensation John boy has done?
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Tell us more about something you've never done.... More about firing a handgun inside a closed car? Sure! I have owned or regularly slept with the owners of six maybe seven vehicles in my life, although in fairness that AMC Scout back in college was so rusted out it didn't really count as a "closed vehicle", especially after an Indian Indian roommate, who had never driven a car, sideswiped a stop sign when I was letting him try and knocked out a rear side window. OK, how about you? Seriously. You ever fire any gun at all inside a closed vehicle? Ya, it doesn't blow your ear drums out... I only knew one guy in patrol who had accidentally fired a shotgun through the roof while taking it out of the rack in a patrol car. He said it was very loud and wore hearing aids. Can't say all the hearing damage was from that single shotgun round but he said at least some of it was. He also said 00 Buck does a lot of damage to a roof.
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Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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Lol....you ain't gonna ever see the people that done it, talkin' about it, though there will always be some that claim it. Really? War? Yeah. Shooting themselves in the foot? Maybe. Lot of people lie to make themselves feel big. Really. With my friend he said it happened when he was attempting to put a Ruger Single Six (?) back in the holster while sitting in his truck. Known him for about 35 years now, this was before I got here. Never have asked to see the scar. I would never think you lied about something someone told you. I'm referring to the usual internet badasses.
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