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Ahmaud Marquez Arbery......same middle name as... Ahmaud Marquez Avery Strange, huh? CNN is reporting the same about weapon on campus. Well then, if it's on CNN it's gotta be true.... Makes it hard don't it? I'm gonna stick to the old 2013 news story I dredged up online of the event until it's proven false. After all, it was written prior to any of these current events....
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From said video it appears Ahmaud Arbery was running along the right side of the McMichael truck then abruptly turns 90 degrees to the left and attacks Travis McMichael who was standing at the front left corner of the truck .
Arbery’s mental health records & prior convictions help explain his apparent aggressive nature and his possible thought pattern to attack an armed man.
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Prior convictions, charges, or even just investigations into the deceased are not relevant.... he’s the victim, not the charged.
The video shows exactly what is relevant..... two citizens in the road blocking it, armed, and confrontational.
The 911 call they made just prior spells it out even further.... someone is jogging by who fits a description of a suspect for a previous crime that had been committed a month prior....
What the deceased did in high school, when he was 25 at the time of his death, so reasonable to say 6-7yrs later... has 0, literally 0 to do with reason for dumb and dumber to shoot him.
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Wish the kid was NOT killed....but both sides acted stupidly when things escalated. Now it is letter of the law that likely will become letter of politics. Given the fact Arbery initiated the fight, at the point Arbery grabbed the shotgun, under Georgia Law , McMichael was allowed to use deadly force to protect himself.
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Given the fact Arbery initiated the fight, at the point Arbery grabbed the shotgun, under Georgia Law , McMichael was allowed to use deadly force to protect himself. The recused DA states this... however, no one can say for certain Arbery grabbed the gun before dumb dumb jr initiated an attack, its blocked by the truck and off tape at that. Which is exactly why the GBI arrested them and pressed charges.
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Wait......now you’re saying the video does NOT show everything? Given the fact Arbery initiated the fight, at the point Arbery grabbed the shotgun, under Georgia Law , McMichael was allowed to use deadly force to protect himself. The recused DA states this... however, no one can say for certain Arbery grabbed the gun before dumb dumb jr initiated an attack, its blocked by the truck and off tape at that. Which is exactly why the GBI arrested them and pressed charges.
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Wait......now you’re saying the video does NOT show everything? Given the fact Arbery initiated the fight, at the point Arbery grabbed the shotgun, under Georgia Law , McMichael was allowed to use deadly force to protect himself. The recused DA states this... however, no one can say for certain Arbery grabbed the gun before dumb dumb jr initiated an attack, its blocked by the truck and off tape at that. Which is exactly why the GBI arrested them and pressed charges. No... im saying it doesnt show what you want it to show.... it doesnt show the deceased grabbing the gun first... It does show dumb & dumber blocking him while armed with guns, while being chased by their buddy who you can hear putting one in the chamber.... and then dumb dumb jr shooting him while in a scuffle... It doesnt show the deceased initiating contact however.
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What if another 911 call took place, giving the victims description......coming out of a construction site, illegal trespass? Prior convictions, charges, or even just investigations into the deceased are not relevant.... he’s the victim, not the charged.
The video shows exactly what is relevant..... two citizens in the road blocking it, armed, and confrontational.
The 911 call they made just prior spells it out even further.... someone is jogging by who fits a description of a suspect for a previous crime that had been committed a month prior....
What the deceased did in high school, when he was 25 at the time of his death, so reasonable to say 6-7yrs later... has 0, literally 0 to do with reason for dumb and dumber to shoot him.
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What if another 911 call took place, giving the victims description......coming out of a construction site? Prior convictions, charges, or even just investigations into the deceased are not relevant.... he’s the victim, not the charged.
The video shows exactly what is relevant..... two citizens in the road blocking it, armed, and confrontational.
The 911 call they made just prior spells it out even further.... someone is jogging by who fits a description of a suspect for a previous crime that had been committed a month prior....
What the deceased did in high school, when he was 25 at the time of his death, so reasonable to say 6-7yrs later... has 0, literally 0 to do with reason for dumb and dumber to shoot him. Your right, they should have def shot him then..... Fugging idiot...
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911: whats your emergency
Caller: Yes, there is a black guy leaving a construction site.
911: you should go chase him down with guns and shoot him so he doesnt get away before the cops arrive.
Said no one ever.
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You can twist it all you’d like. Call me racist if it makes you feel better. Facts are coming out. Stupid actions, both sides. Wish no one had been killed or arrested. What if another 911 call took place, giving the victims description......coming out of a construction site? Prior convictions, charges, or even just investigations into the deceased are not relevant.... he’s the victim, not the charged.
The video shows exactly what is relevant..... two citizens in the road blocking it, armed, and confrontational.
The 911 call they made just prior spells it out even further.... someone is jogging by who fits a description of a suspect for a previous crime that had been committed a month prior....
What the deceased did in high school, when he was 25 at the time of his death, so reasonable to say 6-7yrs later... has 0, literally 0 to do with reason for dumb and dumber to shoot him. Your right, they should have def shot him then..... Fugging idiot...
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If it comes down to them proving this x cop did know exactly who the kid was before he chased him down it's not gonna be a good thing for him.
He could have easily given his information from the security camera he had been viewing to the police and let them deal with it....
He could be more screwed than it appears...
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Possible......but perhaps you should check citizen arrest laws for that State. You may be surprised. If it comes down to them proving this x cop did know exactly who the kid was before he chased him down it's not gonna be a good thing for him.
He could have easily given his information from the security camera he had been viewing to the police and let them deal with it....
He could be more screwed than it appears...
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Prior convictions, charges, or even just investigations into the deceased are not relevant.... he’s the victim, not the charged. It's relevant. In a lethal force self-defense claim before the court, the dead man's criminal record (if it involves violence, even tangentially) is relevant because it lends credence to the claim that his behavior during the struggle leading to his death was such as to place an ordinary person in fear of imminent, and potentially deadly, violence. The logic goes: if he engaged in criminal violence before, that shows a pattern that supports the claim that he was behaving similarly on the day in question.
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That is a big leap right now, idunno if anything that is currently being written by any news source could be called a fact. Way down the road until we get what might be close to facts... That's why I want to cling to my old 2013 news story and it appears it is more than in question...
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Cannot disagree with you there. That is a big leap right now, idunno if anything that is currently being written by any news source could be called a fact. Way down the road until we get what might be close to facts... That's why I want to cling to my old 2013 news story and it appears it is more than in question...
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911: whats your emergency
Caller: Yes, there is a black guy leaving a construction site.
911: you should go chase him down with guns and shoot him so he doesnt get away before the cops arrive.
Said no one ever.
They didn't have guns on them to shoot him to prevent escape. They were bearing arms in case needed to defend themselves from violence, such as the suspect attacking them in such a way as to be life threatening, as he actually did.
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Prior convictions, charges, or even just investigations into the deceased are not relevant.... he’s the victim, not the charged. It's relevant. In a lethal force self-defense claim before the court, the dead man's criminal record (if it involves violence, even tangentially) is relevant because it lends credence to the claim that his behavior during the struggle leading to his death was such as to place an ordinary person in fear of imminent, and potentially deadly, violence. The logic goes: if he engaged in criminal violence before, that shows a pattern that supports the claim that he was behaving similarly on the day in question. The deceased isnt on trial my man...
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Georgia man charged with killing Ahmaud Arbery previously investigated himWhen Arbery, 25, was in high school, he was sentenced to five years’ probation as a first offender on charges of carrying a weapon on campus, and several counts of obstructing a law enforcement officer, the paper reported.
McMichael claimed to cops he recognized Arbery from surveillance video capturing a recent burglary in his mostly white neighborhood — and that he intended to make a citizen’s arrest, the paper reported.
“It appears Travis McMichael, Greg McMichael and [neighbor] William Bryan were following in hot pursuit of a burglary suspect with solid first-hand probable cause,” Barnhill wrote in a letter to Glynn County police Capt. Tom Jump. “Arbery initiated the fight. … At that point, Arbery grabbed the shotgun (that Travis McMichael was holding). Under Georgia law, McMichael was allowed to use deadly force to protect himself.”
Now it is getting interesting. Jogging my ass. Jogging away from a crime scene does change things. Doesn’t make what they did any smarter, but they could be justified for attempting to make a citizen’s arrest. Especially if the father recognized him from his prior arrest. It’s like I said earlier, it’ll all come out in the investigation. Initial reports are never correct. Especially from news reports. There’s always more to the story.
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911: whats your emergency
Caller: Yes, there is a black guy leaving a construction site.
911: you should go chase him down with guns and shoot him so he doesnt get away before the cops arrive.
Said no one ever.
They didn't have guns on them to shoot him to prevent escape. They were bearing arms in case needed to defend themselves from violence, such as the suspect attacking them in such a way as to be life threatening, as he actually did. Weapons were already drawn upon his arrival... there was no suspect... there was a guy they think matches a description of a month old crime. The video and 911 proves a very important element for those on trial.... INTENT
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