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GA statute on Burglary: A person commits the offense of burglary in the first degree when, without authority and with the intent to commit a felony or theft therein, he or she enters or remains within an occupied, unoccupied, or vacant dwelling house of another or any building, vehicle, railroad car, watercraft, aircraft, or other such structure designed for use as the dwelling of another. A person who commits the offense of burglary in the first degree shall be guilty of a felony.... https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2014/title-16/chapter-7/article-1/section-16-7-1Notice that a burglar doesn't have to actually steal anything to be guilty. Mr. Jogger stopped, looked, and entered the house, and tried to find something to steal, for approximately 30 seconds, before being yelled at, and running away at three times the speed he'd previously been "jogging" at. And it's all on video. This.
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Georgia law: Georgia Laws on Burglary
In the state of Georgia, there are two degrees of burglary—first-degree burglary and second-degree burglary. Under O.C.G.A. § 16-7-1, a person commits the offense of burglary in the first degree when, without authority and with the intent to commit a felony or theft therein, he or she enters or remains within an occupied, unoccupied, or vacant dwelling house of another or any building, vehicle, railroad car, watercraft, aircraft, or other such structure designed for use as the dwelling of another.
A person commits the offense of burglary in the second degree when, without authority and with the intent to commit a felony or theft therein, he or she enters or remains within an occupied, unoccupied, or vacant building, structure, vehicle, railroad car, watercraft, or aircraft.
So, the Jogger clearly entered a building without authorization. The question is did he have intent to commit a felony or theft therein? Georgia case law says that the mere presence of valuables inside that could be stolen is sufficient to infer that intent and sustain a conviction for burglary REGARDLESS of whether a theft was carried out. For the purposes of burglary there is no misdemeanor/felony value threshold. If there was so much as a two-by-four or a hammer in there for him to take, his mere presence in the building was sufficient to sustain a conviction for burglary. Now, criminal trespass is a lesser included offense and he would be entitled to an instruction on it if he testified that he did not intend to steal, but he had done enough to be convicted of burglary and satisfy the law. So yeah, the jogger could easily have been convicted of a felony that day based upon his actions. He also happens to be black. Saying that he could have been convicted of a felony has nothing to do with the fact that he was also black. It has to do with the facts as we know them. How about a citation to legal authority instead of your opinion (possession of valuable supports inference of intent to steal).
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Ha. You're expecting folks to act with an IQ of at least 72, Bristle.
All jogger had to do was say hey, I'm thinking of buying this place, and of course, wait for LEO. Whoa, that's a no go. Would you trust someone who seemed irrational in the first place to not shoot you if you did not wait for the cops and just kept jogging? I figured he feared for his life and tried to save himself.
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Did you see the gun pointed at the jogger, prior to the confrontation/scuffle, Antelope Sniper? Filling in the blanks again......
If someone, who's not a cop, points a gun at your, do you plan to forfeit your right to self defense?
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And from my quick, very easy google search here is why it wasnt burglary...
1.) no forceable entry, nor was the property marked. To be such there must be obvious unlawful entry... i.e., someone stops in to ask for directions is no more or less guilty or innocent then the deceased in this instance.
2.) you must prove intent... you have to prove he had intent of committing a felony. You cant, hes dead.... and not at the scene.
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And lots of real states attorneys as well as various other defense attorneys in all the various articles and newscasts all say that the victim committed criminal trespass only... Race-baiting propagandists are misleading the public on purpose, for their own profit and motives. You're a Covtard, so you'll believe that over the truth, as is your habit. The GA state's attorney for the county where this occurred, followed GA law and decided it was a burglary, and therefore the armed citizens had the right under GA law to attempt to stop a fleeing felon.
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GA statute on Burglary: A person commits the offense of burglary in the first degree when, without authority and with the intent to commit a felony or theft therein, he or she enters or remains within an occupied, unoccupied, or vacant dwelling house of another or any building, vehicle, railroad car, watercraft, aircraft, or other such structure designed for use as the dwelling of another. A person who commits the offense of burglary in the first degree shall be guilty of a felony.... https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2014/title-16/chapter-7/article-1/section-16-7-1Notice that a burglar doesn't have to actually steal anything to be guilty. Mr. Jogger stopped, looked, and entered the house, and tried to find something to steal, for approximately 30 seconds, before being yelled at, and running away at three times the speed he'd previously been "jogging" at. And it's all on video. This. Did he say "on video" that he was looking for something to steel?
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GA statute on Burglary: A person commits the offense of burglary in the first degree when, without authority and with the intent to commit a felony or theft therein, he or she enters or remains within an occupied, unoccupied, or vacant dwelling house of another or any building, vehicle, railroad car, watercraft, aircraft, or other such structure designed for use as the dwelling of another. A person who commits the offense of burglary in the first degree shall be guilty of a felony.... https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2014/title-16/chapter-7/article-1/section-16-7-1Notice that a burglar doesn't have to actually steal anything to be guilty. Mr. Jogger stopped, looked, and entered the house, and tried to find something to steal, for approximately 30 seconds, before being yelled at, and running away at three times the speed he'd previously been "jogging" at. And it's all on video. This. Its actually not that... lol... go to the actual website fOr GA statues lmao... O.C.G.A. §16-7-1. The statute defines burglary to be the “breaking and entering into any structure with the intent to commit a felony therein.
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And from my quick, very easy google search here is why it wasnt burglary...
1.) no forceable entry, nor was the property marked. To be such there must be obvious unlawful entry... i.e., someone stops in to ask for directions is no more or less guilty or innocent then the deceased in this instance.
2.) you must prove intent... you have to prove he had intent of committing a felony. You cant, hes dead.... and not at the scene. The burglary statute is posted above, twice. Forcible entry is not required, nor is actually stealing anything. Intent can be inferred from his actions, and proven by the video of the joglar, both inside and outside the house.
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Saying that he could have been convicted of a felony has nothing to do with the fact that he was also black. i doubt the guys in the truck, or most of the guys reading this, think that What you doubt is pretty immaterial to the facts. the thoughts of a third person are not readily verifiable, but one can make reasonably accurate assumptions based on circumstantial observation of words and actions, not immaterial whatsoever
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AS cant understand that if the dead man had laid down he would be home having a cold one today.
Are you so naive that you would surrender and allow yourself to be rendered helpless at the mercy of two or three gun wielding strangers in the middle of the street? Strangers who had been using vehicles to aggressively chase you through the streets. Strangers who doing such crazy schitt as standing in the back of a fast moving pickup, waving a gun, and one can safely assume shouting many phrases. Does any of the demonstrated activity of the Bubbas prior to actual contact with the victim lead one to think their intended victim had any reason to believe he would be treated fairly, humanely, and not put at risk before Police arrived? Hell, the victim had no knowledge that Police were even in route. Does one believe that Bubba and Bubba Jr were not shouting explicit threats toward their intended victim in their hot headed and reckless endeavor to bring to justice what they considered to be a POS dirtbag criminal? I only know what I see on the video. Black man grabs shotgun barrel. Shortly afterwards he falls down. The narrative surrounding the event has been constructed by the media,...when it wasn't constructing a narrative about Trump colluding with Russia in order to defeat Hillary in the 2016 Presidential election. I think he probably died of COVID-19.
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And lots of real states attorneys as well as various other defense attorneys in all the various articles and newscasts all say that the victim committed criminal trespass only... Race-baiting propagandists are misleading the public on purpose, for their own profit and motives. You're a Covtard, so you'll believe that over the truth, as is your habit. The GA state's attorney for the county where this occurred, followed GA law and decided it was a burglary, and therefore the armed citizens had the right under GA law to attempt to stop a fleeing felon. And hence..... why its now in the media... because it was put to bed, but the surfaced video proves otherwise... showing that DA was a racist bigot who’s friends with Bubba... proving your a premium retarded dinkus...
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And from my quick, very easy google search here is why it wasnt burglary...
1.) no forceable entry, nor was the property marked. To be such there must be obvious unlawful entry... i.e., someone stops in to ask for directions is no more or less guilty or innocent then the deceased in this instance.
2.) you must prove intent... you have to prove he had intent of committing a felony. You cant, hes dead.... and not at the scene. The burglary statute is posted above, twice. Forcible entry is not required, nor is actually stealing anything. Intent can be inferred from his actions, and proven by the video of the joglar, both inside and outside the house. Those like Ej cant understand the written law.
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Ref. Lawson and Berry Law firm, Atlanta GA.
-What Must be Proven to be Convicted-
"To convict you of burglary, the District Attorney must be able to prove that you had the intent to commit a crime when you broke into and entered the place. Burglary requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt that you broke and entered with the intent to commit a felony inside. The defendant is not guilty of burglary if he decided to commit a crime once he was already on the property but he will be guilty of theft or another crime."
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And lots of real states attorneys as well as various other defense attorneys in all the various articles and newscasts all say that the victim committed criminal trespass only... Race-baiting propagandists are misleading the public on purpose, for their own profit and motives. You're a Covtard, so you'll believe that over the truth, as is your habit. The GA state's attorney for the county where this occurred, followed GA law and decided it was a burglary, and therefore the armed citizens had the right under GA law to attempt to stop a fleeing felon. And hence..... why its now in the media... because it was put to bed, but the surfaced video proves otherwise... showing that DA was a racist bigot who’s friends with Bubba... proving your a premium retarded dinkus... I think you're meaning "you're", dumbass.
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Looks like white trash murdered the black man in cold blood.
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The black man was coughing and hacking. The two white gentlemen tried to make him keep his social distance because he wasn't wearing a mask.
The black man wrestled with the man holding the shotgun for a moment,..then dropped dead from over exerting himself while the virus was working on him.
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And from my quick, very easy google search here is why it wasnt burglary...
1.) no forceable entry, nor was the property marked. To be such there must be obvious unlawful entry... i.e., someone stops in to ask for directions is no more or less guilty or innocent then the deceased in this instance.
2.) you must prove intent... you have to prove he had intent of committing a felony. You cant, hes dead.... and not at the scene. The burglary statute is posted above, twice. Forcible entry is not required, nor is actually stealing anything. Intent can be inferred from his actions, and proven by the video of the joglar, both inside and outside the house. No... no it isnt... thats from a 3rd party... i posted an exert from the real statue, from the real website... carryon dinkus, this whole google things above your head. Your not even doing it, your going by a forum post..... makes you even more of a dinkus!
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GA statute on Burglary: A person commits the offense of burglary in the first degree when, without authority and with the intent to commit a felony or theft therein, he or she enters or remains within an occupied, unoccupied, or vacant dwelling house of another or any building, vehicle, railroad car, watercraft, aircraft, or other such structure designed for use as the dwelling of another. A person who commits the offense of burglary in the first degree shall be guilty of a felony.... https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2014/title-16/chapter-7/article-1/section-16-7-1Notice that a burglar doesn't have to actually steal anything to be guilty. Mr. Jogger stopped, looked, and entered the house, and tried to find something to steal, for approximately 30 seconds, before being yelled at, and running away at three times the speed he'd previously been "jogging" at. And it's all on video. This. Did he say "on video" that he was looking for something to steel? Yes. By his actions in moving and looking around for something to steal.
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