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So according to many on here, 4th amendment protections only count when you're getting harassed by Barney Fife.

They do not apply to non-LE when they want to play "stop the black guy in the neighborhood"


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
What’s astonishing is that no matter how many dozens of times these hyped-up Race Porn stories completely fall to pieces once the facts come in, the True Believers gullibly hop right on it again with unrestrained lynch-mob glee. How many Covington Kids and Jussie Smolletts and Mike Browns and Trayvon Martins and Duke Lacrosse Teams and Tawana Brawleys and Rodney Kings will it take for journalists and jurors to do what they are supposed to do—i.e., wait until all the facts come in? Apparently they feel not a whit of shame about being found wrong again and again and again—nearly every single time, in fact.

https://www.takimag.com/article/the-lynching-of-a-black-jogger/


Shame? Even after it’s been proven bullschit, the same they’ll refer back to those same stories as an example of “the lynch-mob mentality“. Facts don’t mean schit to these people. Throw all the crime statistics and numbers you want. They’ll just look at you and continue on with the victimization and Black Lives Matter crap. No responsibility taken and that’s why it keeps happening.

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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Tyrone
If you thought some guy matched the description of a rapist, would you stop them and suggest they wait for police?


What level of proof would you say is required to detain someone?
What level of force is appropriate to keep them detained if they decide to leave?






If this was answered I missed it.


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
So according to many on here, 4th amendment protections only count when you're getting harassed by Barney Fife.

They do not apply to non-LE when they want to play "stop the black guy in the neighborhood"




It's been so enlightening.

LOL.


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Tyrone
If you thought some guy matched the description of a rapist, would you stop them and suggest they wait for police?


What level of proof would you say is required to detain someone?
What level of force is appropriate to keep them detained if they decide to leave?






If this was answered I missed it.


You’re expecting an answer from people that think a few seconds of video is enough to convict or exonerate somebody without an investigation.

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Originally Posted by Dryfly24
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Tyrone
If you thought some guy matched the description of a rapist, would you stop them and suggest they wait for police?


What level of proof would you say is required to detain someone?
What level of force is appropriate to keep them detained if they decide to leave?






If this was answered I missed it.


You’re expecting an answer from people that think a few seconds of video is enough to convict or exonerate somebody.


Unfortunately I do tilt at windmills sometimes.


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Originally Posted by Dryfly24
Originally Posted by Bristoe
What’s astonishing is that no matter how many dozens of times these hyped-up Race Porn stories completely fall to pieces once the facts come in, the True Believers gullibly hop right on it again with unrestrained lynch-mob glee. How many Covington Kids and Jussie Smolletts and Mike Browns and Trayvon Martins and Duke Lacrosse Teams and Tawana Brawleys and Rodney Kings will it take for journalists and jurors to do what they are supposed to do—i.e., wait until all the facts come in? Apparently they feel not a whit of shame about being found wrong again and again and again—nearly every single time, in fact.

https://www.takimag.com/article/the-lynching-of-a-black-jogger/


Shame? Even after it’s been proven bullschit, the same they’ll refer back to those same stories as an example of “the lynch-mob mentality“. Facts don’t mean schit to these people. Throw all the crime statistics and numbers you want. They’ll just look at you and continue on with the victimization and Black Lives Matter crap. No responsibility taken and that’s why it keeps happening.


Yep, we have a plethora of Hillary enablers. They sleep well at night with the satisfaction they are saving criminals who will become famous lowyers.


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Tyrone
If you thought some guy matched the description of a rapist, would you stop them and suggest they wait for police?


What level of proof would you say is required to detain someone?
What level of force is appropriate to keep them detained if they decide to leave?






If this was answered I missed it.



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Had not heard that he was shot 3 times until now!

https://www.wsbtv.com/video/?id=4902429


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Originally Posted by Dryfly24
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Tyrone
If you thought some guy matched the description of a rapist, would you stop them and suggest they wait for police?


What level of proof would you say is required to detain someone?
What level of force is appropriate to keep them detained if they decide to leave?






If this was answered I missed it.


You’re expecting an answer from people that think a few seconds of video is enough to convict or exonerate somebody without an investigation.


A few seconds of video is all it is going to take to convict these guys.

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Block party!

#stayback6feet


I was a little nervous at first.

But it turns out we have lots of stuff in common.



I like to drink and eat and talk loud.


What about ass twerking?

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One of my many faults........I dont have a twerkable ass.


Its a cross....


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Originally Posted by billhilly
Originally Posted by Dryfly24
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Tyrone
If you thought some guy matched the description of a rapist, would you stop them and suggest they wait for police?


What level of proof would you say is required to detain someone?
What level of force is appropriate to keep them detained if they decide to leave?






If this was answered I missed it.


You’re expecting an answer from people that think a few seconds of video is enough to convict or exonerate somebody without an investigation.


A few seconds of video is all it is going to take to convict these guys.


Yeah. Without an investigation, or trial, or jury, or judge. No need to bother with any other information. They’re just going to project the video on a big screen like a drive in, then run those boys to the nearest tall tree right?

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Originally Posted by ready_on_the_right
Had not heard that he was shot 3 times until now!

https://www.wsbtv.com/video/?id=4902429

Was it a semi-auto shotgun?

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Originally Posted by billhilly


A few seconds of video is all it is going to take to convict these guys.


That's what they said about the Rodney King footage.


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Originally Posted by billhilly
Originally Posted by Dryfly24
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Tyrone
If you thought some guy matched the description of a rapist, would you stop them and suggest they wait for police?


What level of proof would you say is required to detain someone?
What level of force is appropriate to keep them detained if they decide to leave?






If this was answered I missed it.


You’re expecting an answer from people that think a few seconds of video is enough to convict or exonerate somebody without an investigation.


A few seconds of video is all it is going to take to convict these guys.



You watched it and decided they’re guilty as sin. Others watched it and decided they were innocent as lambs. Some people think the dead guy attacked them. Some people think he was just trying defend himself.

Here’s a clue to what I’m trying to tell you. Different people can see the same exact thing and interpret it in absolutely opposite ways. That’s why you need more information to determine exactly what it is that happened. Snap judgements are very seldom correct.

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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Tyrone
If you thought some guy matched the description of a rapist, would you stop them and suggest they wait for police?


What level of proof would you say is required to detain someone?
What level of force is appropriate to keep them detained if they decide to leave?






If this was answered I missed it.


I've come in really late and this may well have been posted already but the statutory answer to that question would be

GA 17-4-60
A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.


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Originally Posted by Dryfly24
Originally Posted by billhilly
Originally Posted by Dryfly24
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Tyrone
If you thought some guy matched the description of a rapist, would you stop them and suggest they wait for police?


What level of proof would you say is required to detain someone?
What level of force is appropriate to keep them detained if they decide to leave?






If this was answered I missed it.


You’re expecting an answer from people that think a few seconds of video is enough to convict or exonerate somebody without an investigation.


A few seconds of video is all it is going to take to convict these guys.



You watched it and decided they’re guilty as sin. Others watched it and decided they were innocent as lambs. Some people think the dead guy attacked them. Some people think he was just trying defend himself.

Here’s a clue to what I’m trying to tell you. Different people can see the same exact thing and interpret it in absolutely opposite ways. That’s why you need more information to determine exactly what it is that happened. Snap judgements are very seldom correct.




GFY. I didn’t conclude anything other than they would be crucified by the media and prosecutors because that’s the world we live in today. Hell. The feds are already looking into adding “hate crimes” to the pile on. You obviously haven’t read a damned thing I’ve written on this thread or if you did, you’re as dumb as a box of rocks. You’re trying to give me a clue about different people having different perspectives when my entire point is an indictment of current perspective and snap judgments. Seriously?
Yes, they’ll have and investigation run by an outraged and politically motivated prosecutor who leaks like a sieve to an equally outraged media. Then they’ll have a trial with an elected judge, outraged prosecutor, and a jury that’s been hearing from the media 24/7 about how evil these racist guys are. My point is that this was an entirely predictable outcome from the point they decided to chase the black dude down.


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Has this thread solved the jogger problem yet?

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I don’t know for certain if they are guilty or innocent. But I’m pretty satisfied that:

1) Arbery was no innocent jogger;

2) That the McMillans did not go after the guy JUST because he was black; and

3) The McMillans did not set out to shoot the guy.

All who believe anything like those assertions have fallen for the same old race baiting narrative that always gets thrown out.

Everything else will get decided by a jury. I personally believe that there are enough facts to support the thoughts set out by the second D.A. to recuse himself in his letter to the third. It isn’t a slam dunk either way but the third DA had intended to send it to a grand jury and let them decide whether to move forward or not. That is entirely consistent with why I see in this case. But I really deplore the way it has been handled since the video was released.

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