If you thought some guy matched the description of a rapist, would you stop them and suggest they wait for police?
What level of proof would you say is required to detain someone? What level of force is appropriate to keep them detained if they decide to leave?
If this was answered I missed it.
You’re expecting an answer from people that think a few seconds of video is enough to convict or exonerate somebody without an investigation.
A few seconds of video is all it is going to take to convict these guys.
You watched it and decided they’re guilty as sin. Others watched it and decided they were innocent as lambs. Some people think the dead guy attacked them. Some people think he was just trying defend himself.
Here’s a clue to what I’m trying to tell you. Different people can see the same exact thing and interpret it in absolutely opposite ways. That’s why you need more information to determine exactly what it is that happened. Snap judgements are very seldom correct.
GFY. I didn’t conclude anything other than they would be crucified by the media and prosecutors because that’s the world we live in today. Hell. The feds are already looking into adding “hate crimes” to the pile on. You obviously haven’t read a damned thing I’ve written on this thread or if you did, you’re as dumb as a box of rocks. You’re trying to give me a clue about different people having different perspectives when my entire point is an indictment of current perspective and snap judgments. Seriously? Yes, they’ll have and investigation run by an outraged and politically motivated prosecutor who leaks like a sieve to an equally outraged media. Then they’ll have a trial with an elected judge, outraged prosecutor, and a jury that’s been hearing from the media 24/7 about how evil these racist guys are. My point is that this was an entirely predictable outcome from the point they decided to chase the black dude down.
Numb nuts. This thread is 59 pages long and going. Do you really think you’re so important that anything you said stuck in mind as being relevant? You posted a stupid, simplistic one line answer to a complex question posted by Billy Goat. I answered it. So you GFY...
If you thought some guy matched the description of a rapist, would you stop them and suggest they wait for police?
What level of proof would you say is required to detain someone? What level of force is appropriate to keep them detained if they decide to leave?
If this was answered I missed it.
You’re expecting an answer from people that think a few seconds of video is enough to convict or exonerate somebody without an investigation.
A few seconds of video is all it is going to take to convict these guys.
You watched it and decided they’re guilty as sin. Others watched it and decided they were innocent as lambs. Some people think the dead guy attacked them. Some people think he was just trying defend himself.
Here’s a clue to what I’m trying to tell you. Different people can see the same exact thing and interpret it in absolutely opposite ways. That’s why you need more information to determine exactly what it is that happened. Snap judgements are very seldom correct.
GFY. I didn’t conclude anything other than they would be crucified by the media and prosecutors because that’s the world we live in today. Hell. The feds are already looking into adding “hate crimes” to the pile on. You obviously haven’t read a damned thing I’ve written on this thread or if you did, you’re as dumb as a box of rocks. You’re trying to give me a clue about different people having different perspectives when my entire point is an indictment of current perspective and snap judgments. Seriously? Yes, they’ll have and investigation run by an outraged and politically motivated prosecutor who leaks like a sieve to an equally outraged media. Then they’ll have a trial with an elected judge, outraged prosecutor, and a jury that’s been hearing from the media 24/7 about how evil these racist guys are. My point is that this was an entirely predictable outcome from the point they decided to chase the black dude down.
Numb nuts. This thread is 59 pages long and going. Do you really think you’re so important that anything you said stuck in mind as being relevant? You posted a stupid, simplistic one line answer to a complex question posted by Billy Goat. I answered it. So you GFY...
LMFAO...
Oh, I see. You made a “snap judgement” based on a one line statement. I’ve heard somewhere that snap judgements can be problematic.
It would appear that we agree on more than we don’t here though. Joggers are indeed gonna jog. My one line statement was a wry observation of the fact that in today’s climate, that video is enough to well and truly screw those guys. I wish that wasn’t the case but I wish I was younger, richer, and better looking too.
My take is the guy was self important due to his job with the d.a. office and decided he didn't need to call the police. Guess what. Play stupid games win stupid prizes. Even if the kid was guilty we will never know because the shooter was such an [bleep]
My take is the guy was self important due to his job with the d.a. office and decided he didn't need to call the police. Guess what. Play stupid games win stupid prizes. Even if thee kid was guilty we will never know because the shooter was such an [bleep]
I wish that wasn’t the case but I wish I was younger, richer, and better looking too.
Well we can definitely agree on that. A little while ago my wife started harping on me yet again to shave my beard off. I asked her why in the hell would she want to see MORE of my face?
I can't begin to imagine what it would be like to be a black member of this group. Some of you are goddam embarrassment to human kind. This truly pains me. I get a bit defensive when left leaning people make the snarky gun owner=racist comments, but then every day this place reminds me that they have a point. I'd love to see you cowards say the kind of crap that you say in front of black people. You wouldn't do it because you are cowards. The world will be a better place when your are rotting in hell.
Very well said. We have one black member here that I am aware of. A really good guy. Retired military commissioned officer. He keeps a low profile because this place is so hostile to blacks. This forum is dominated by racists whose race-based identity politics are identical to those of the hard left. Let me repeat that: guys like Bristoe, Hawkeye (and many others here) share the exact same premise as black identitarians of the hard, hard left. They are every bit as racist as the black racists they (very hypocritically) despise. It is a very poor reflection on Rick Bin that he indulges the racism so prevalent here in the name of the unimitigated pursuit of the almighty dollar. He should be ashamed of himself.
About time somebody said this. You also might wonder why there are almost no females on here, what with the continued sexual innuendos by the same group of low lifes. Or why they let card carrying Nazis like The Real Hawkeye post at all. Or why, more and more, so many posts are complete drivel. All Rick Bin seems to care about is number of clicks. The advertisders are dumb enough to pay him so many shekels per click so who cares what gets clicked?
Wow.
You guys should start your own happy place forum.
Full of diversity, inclusiveness, and sparkling pink rainbows that shoot out unicorn farts.
I can't begin to imagine what it would be like to be a black member of this group. Some of you are goddam embarrassment to human kind. This truly pains me. I get a bit defensive when left leaning people make the snarky gun owner=racist comments, but then every day this place reminds me that they have a point. I'd love to see you cowards say the kind of crap that you say in front of black people. You wouldn't do it because you are cowards. The world will be a better place when your are rotting in hell.
Very well said. We have one black member here that I am aware of. A really good guy. Retired military commissioned officer. He keeps a low profile because this place is so hostile to blacks. This forum is dominated by racists whose race-based identity politics are identical to those of the hard left. Let me repeat that: guys like Bristoe, Hawkeye (and many others here) share the exact same premise as black identitarians of the hard, hard left. They are every bit as racist as the black racists they (very hypocritically) despise. It is a very poor reflection on Rick Bin that he indulges the racism so prevalent here in the name of the unimitigated pursuit of the almighty dollar. He should be ashamed of himself.
About time somebody said this. You also might wonder why there are almost no females on here, what with the continued sexual innuendos by the same group of low lifes. Or why they let card carrying Nazis like The Real Hawkeye post at all. Or why, more and more, so many posts are complete drivel. All Rick Bin seems to care about is number of clicks. The advertisders are dumb enough to pay him so many shekels per click so who cares what gets clicked?
Wow.
You guys should start your own happy place forum.
Full of diversity, inclusiveness, and sparkling pink rainbows that shoot out unicorn farts.
I don't generally treat snarky crap seriously, but you do raise an important point. From purely strategic political standpoint we'd (us gun owners) would do ourselves a favor by being more diverse. Without question we'd be better off if the racist bile would cease. You can take the white trash out of the trailerhood, but it'll still be trash.
It would appear that we are well populated by neighborhood watch commandos that are criminal attorneys who believe anyone who doesn't share their phobic terror of joggers is a PC liberal. Lots of fear out there, many probably have good reason to embrace their ignorance and wave it like the stars and bars.
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