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So what is your explanation for the preponderance of black on white crime and the all too frequent sensless viciousness manifested in it? And dont tell me it's because they werent raised in Montanas loving atmosphere. wink


Why do you think Antelope Sniper was raised in Montana?


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TRH,

It's not so much that you are rude, but disappointing. I'm disappointed that a man of your intelligence, has allowed himself to abandon his skepticism in pursuit of half baked conspiracy theories, especially those founded in racial bigotry . You know The Constitution and founding principles better than most, but for you the proposition that all men are created equal seem to only encompass non-Jewish white males.

No one here is denying there's problems within the black community. I've suggested that if it's what some here really want to discuss, lets not conflate the two issues and start a separate thread on that separate subject, because conflating the two, doesn't help.

You are way to serious a person, especially as a concealed carrier to not take seriously the facts as laid out in the video I presented, regardless of the race of the pro-2A attorney presenting them. You watch the Active Self Defense video's. I expect you are aware the aggressors violated about every principle there is pertaining to armed self defense. So yes, I'm disappointed you went straight to "oh of course he black", as opposed to actually addressing the content of his speech.

You share with the left a tendency to impute evil on those with whom you disagree. I don't consider you to be evil because you disagree with me on many subjects. I just assume that it's due to many years of programming, starting in early childhood, that you are unable to overcome or rise above.


Again you disappoint me with your failure to pay attention. I'm actually on the opposite end of that spectrum. "Evil" generally required intent. Most liberals are not evil, they are just wrong, and unable to see the consequences of the policies they propose.

Likewise I think many of the conspiracy theories to which you ascribe are best dismissed with Hanlon's Razor:

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity",



So what is your explanation for the preponderance of black on white crime and the all too frequent sensless viciousness manifested in it? And dont tell me it's because they werent raised in Montanas loving atmosphere. wink



The numbers show that violent crime crosses racial boundaries infrequently. You aren't interested in the answer to your question. If you were, you'd look at the crime rate of black Americans who grow up in two parent homes outside of the ghetto and have an opportunity for a good education and learn a little from it.

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What disturbs me most is how many of you think a man should allow himself to be disarmed and murdered just because he investigated a suspected burglar in his neighborhood.



Or that a man who is armed is automatically the aggressor. Some of these guys aren’t too far off from attacking the dude open carrying at the grocery store because they felt threatened.

Break it down to its most simple parts. You can open carry in Georgia. You can open carry in the street in Georgia. You can talk to people, maybe even disagreeably so while open carrying in Georgia. None of that, in and of themselves makes one the aggressor in a confrontation. There is going to have to be some affirmative act...a spoken threat, physical contact, or pointing the gun to make one the aggressor.

Most on here want to argue that the whole situation made the McMillans the aggressors. And maybe, the jury will buy off on that. But if I were their counsel, I would try to break it down to it’s most basic elements and condense their acts down individually and analyze them that way.


They got their guns for the purpose of confronting this person without legal justification. The guns were not slung on their backs or in their holsters, they were at the ready when they initiated the confrontation, so yea, they were the aggressors. If anyone had the right to stand his ground in self defense, it was the dead man.


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
What disturbs me most is how many of you think a man should allow himself to be disarmed and murdered just because he investigated a suspected burglar in his neighborhood.

This.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Tyrone
What disturbs me most is how many of you think a man should allow himself to be disarmed and murdered just because he investigated a suspected burglar in his neighborhood.

This.


Would you also like to take place in the self-policing challenge?


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Originally Posted by deflave
Jag and Tyrone,

Fly on out.

We'll put your theories to the test. 45 minutes in a self-policed community.

You can't run, and you can't fight.

LMAO
We had a heroin addict breaking into cars at night recently.
I heard some commotion on the blind side of my house where some cars are parked, so I went out to see what was going on. Should I have been killed for that?

LOL! The neighbor's guest never knew I had a .38 in my hand.

That's my self-policing community.


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Originally Posted by jaguartx
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TRH,

It's not so much that you are rude, but disappointing. I'm disappointed that a man of your intelligence, has allowed himself to abandon his skepticism in pursuit of half baked conspiracy theories, especially those founded in racial bigotry . You know The Constitution and founding principles better than most, but for you the proposition that all men are created equal seem to only encompass non-Jewish white males.

No one here is denying there's problems within the black community. I've suggested that if it's what some here really want to discuss, lets not conflate the two issues and start a separate thread on that separate subject, because conflating the two, doesn't help.

You are way to serious a person, especially as a concealed carrier to not take seriously the facts as laid out in the video I presented, regardless of the race of the pro-2A attorney presenting them. You watch the Active Self Defense video's. I expect you are aware the aggressors violated about every principle there is pertaining to armed self defense. So yes, I'm disappointed you went straight to "oh of course he black", as opposed to actually addressing the content of his speech.

You share with the left a tendency to impute evil on those with whom you disagree. I don't consider you to be evil because you disagree with me on many subjects. I just assume that it's due to many years of programming, starting in early childhood, that you are unable to overcome or rise above.


Again you disappoint me with your failure to pay attention. I'm actually on the opposite end of that spectrum. "Evil" generally required intent. Most liberals are not evil, they are just wrong, and unable to see the consequences of the policies they propose.

Likewise I think many of the conspiracy theories to which you ascribe are best dismissed with Hanlon's Razor:

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity",



So what is your explanation for the preponderance of black on white crime and the all too frequent sensless viciousness manifested in it? And dont tell me it's because they werent raised in Montanas loving atmosphere. wink


It's a multi-factored problem best not discussed in polite company.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Originally Posted by Tyrone
We had a heroin addict breaking into cars at night recently.
I heard some commotion on the blind side of my house where some cars are parked, so I went out to see what was going on. Should I have been killed for that?

LOL! The neighbor's guest never knew I had a .38 in my hand.

That's my self-policing community.


GREAT analogy.


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
Why not? We've always had the eunuchs guard the harem.
Only eunuchs in modernity I’m aware of are the castratos the homo papists diddled after listening to them sing.
That sounds pretty weird to me, not that there's anything wrong with that, if that's what you like.


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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Tyrone
What disturbs me most is how many of you think a man should allow himself to be disarmed and murdered just because he investigated a suspected burglar in his neighborhood.

This.


Would you also like to take place in the self-policing challenge?


Hawkeye still mad that dummy who got pushed down in a parking lot got sent up.

Feller finally got to FINALLY kill a black guy and look what they did to him.


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
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Originally Posted by Tyrone
Why not? We've always had the eunuchs guard the harem.
Only eunuchs in modernity I’m aware of are the castratos the homo papists diddled after listening to them sing.
That sounds pretty weird to me, not that there's anything wrong with that, if that's what you like.


I believe he's accusing you of being a Catholic.


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GREAT analogy.
Thank you. I knew you'd see it my way. smile


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Jag and Tyrone,

Fly on out.

We'll put your theories to the test. 45 minutes in a self-policed community.

You can't run, and you can't fight.

LMAO
We had a heroin addict breaking into cars at night recently.
I heard some commotion on the blind side of my house where some cars are parked, so I went out to see what was going on. Should I have been killed for that?

LOL! The neighbor's guest never knew I had a .38 in my hand.

That's my self-policing community.


You are asking the wrong question. Should you have entered into an armed confrontation with the neighbor's guest?

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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by Tyrone
What disturbs me most is how many of you think a man should allow himself to be disarmed and murdered just because he investigated a suspected burglar in his neighborhood.



Or that a man who is armed is automatically the aggressor. Some of these guys aren’t too far off from attacking the dude open carrying at the grocery store because they felt threatened.

Break it down to its most simple parts. You can open carry in Georgia. You can open carry in the street in Georgia. You can talk to people, maybe even disagreeably so while open carrying in Georgia. None of that, in and of themselves makes one the aggressor in a confrontation. There is going to have to be some affirmative act...a spoken threat, physical contact, or pointing the gun to make one the aggressor.

Most on here want to argue that the whole situation made the McMillans the aggressors. And maybe, the jury will buy off on that. But if I were their counsel, I would try to break it down to it’s most basic elements and condense their acts down individually and analyze them that way.


They got their guns for the purpose of PROTECTING THEMSELVES FROM A POSSIBLE DANGEROUS OR INSANE person. The guns were not slung on their backs or in their holsters, they were at the ready when they initiated the confrontation, so yea, they were the aggressors. If anyone had the right to stand his ground in self defense, it was the dead man.


But it's ok when the popo are the aggressors when trying to stop, investigate, or arrest someone.

Here's a novel idea.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."


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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Why not? We've always had the eunuchs guard the harem.
Only eunuchs in modernity I’m aware of are the castratos the homo papists diddled after listening to them sing.
That sounds pretty weird to me, not that there's anything wrong with that, if that's what you like.
I believe he's accusing you of being a Catholic.
Oh. In that case, sorry he was traumatized.


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by Tyrone
What disturbs me most is how many of you think a man should allow himself to be disarmed and murdered just because he investigated a suspected burglar in his neighborhood.



Or that a man who is armed is automatically the aggressor. Some of these guys aren’t too far off from attacking the dude open carrying at the grocery store because they felt threatened.

Break it down to its most simple parts. You can open carry in Georgia. You can open carry in the street in Georgia. You can talk to people, maybe even disagreeably so while open carrying in Georgia. None of that, in and of themselves makes one the aggressor in a confrontation. There is going to have to be some affirmative act...a spoken threat, physical contact, or pointing the gun to make one the aggressor.

Most on here want to argue that the whole situation made the McMillans the aggressors. And maybe, the jury will buy off on that. But if I were their counsel, I would try to break it down to it’s most basic elements and condense their acts down individually and analyze them that way.


They got their guns for the purpose of confronting this person without legal justification. The guns were not slung on their backs or in their holsters, they were at the ready when they initiated the confrontation, so yea, they were the aggressors. If anyone had the right to stand his ground in self defense, it was the dead man.



Yes. This is my take and better said than my post by far

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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by jaguartx


So what is your explanation for the preponderance of black on white crime and the all too frequent sensless viciousness manifested in it? And dont tell me it's because they werent raised in Montanas loving atmosphere. wink


Why do you think Antelope Sniper was raised in Montana?


Because hes so PC. grin


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Originally Posted by jaguartx

So what is your explanation for the preponderance of black on white crime and the all too frequent sensless viciousness manifested in it? And dont tell me it's because they werent raised in Montanas loving atmosphere. wink



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Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by Tyrone
What disturbs me most is how many of you think a man should allow himself to be disarmed and murdered just because he investigated a suspected burglar in his neighborhood.



Or that a man who is armed is automatically the aggressor. Some of these guys aren’t too far off from attacking the dude open carrying at the grocery store because they felt threatened.

Break it down to its most simple parts. You can open carry in Georgia. You can open carry in the street in Georgia. You can talk to people, maybe even disagreeably so while open carrying in Georgia. None of that, in and of themselves makes one the aggressor in a confrontation. There is going to have to be some affirmative act...a spoken threat, physical contact, or pointing the gun to make one the aggressor.

Most on here want to argue that the whole situation made the McMillans the aggressors. And maybe, the jury will buy off on that. But if I were their counsel, I would try to break it down to it’s most basic elements and condense their acts down individually and analyze them that way.


They got their guns for the purpose of PROTECTING THEMSELVES FROM A POSSIBLE DANGEROUS OR INSANE person. The guns were not slung on their backs or in their holsters, they were at the ready when they initiated the confrontation, so yea, they were the aggressors. If anyone had the right to stand his ground in self defense, it was the dead man.


But it's ok when the popo are the aggressors when trying to stop, investigate, or arrest someone.



Um, yes. They have the statutory authority and the it's their paid duty to stop, investigate and arrest. For good reason, civilians aren't granted as broad authority, and it's not their paid duty to do that.

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