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I do not see it as my responsibility to enter into an armed confrontation with an empty handed man who walked through an open house under construction. Simply because when I think about these things I quickly recognize that they can go as they did in this case. Who among us wants to be in the killer's shoes? Like most debates here, many people see things as black or white and argue those points ad nauseam. But the world is often very GRAY. A few here suggest the jogger was the aggressor, and the 2 white men were well within their rights, because they suspected (or even saw) the jogger peek into a house. That sets the premise, that I should meet every car that doesn't use a blinker to turn into my cul-de-sac, with a shotgun in the face. Neighbor didn't buckle up before backing out of their driveway? Shotgun to the face. We weird ass next door neighbor stepping onto my property to look into my garbage can? Shotgun to the face. Of course, everyone here will agree those are ridiculous scenarios. So it appears there ARE shades of gray in this argument. My view is, self policing with firearms involved should be the exception for only the most dire of circumstances, not the norm. Because bottom line, if you pull a firearm out without the express intent of immediately protecting your life or the life of your family, you've potentially crossed into a place where your freedom, and your financial future is dependent on some gun-hating libtard sitting on a jury, stewing about how you have a gun. Even if you were in the right. So no, I will not risk even the slightest chance of jail time or civil suite for some petty crime, like these 2 dumbfuggs did. And the jogger was stupid as chit for what he did, too. Clusterfugg all the way around. That is entirely to goddam reasonable of a comment for this schidtshow. Oh, jogger didnt signal a left turn on his run? Well, that sheds a whole new light on the problem.
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The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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Why not? We've always had the eunuchs guard the harem.
Only eunuchs in modernity I’m aware of are the castratos the homo papists diddled after listening to them sing. That sounds pretty weird to me, not that there's anything wrong with that, if that's what you like.I believe he's accusing you of being a Catholic. Oh. In that case, sorry he was traumatized.I've no doubt you are sorry for a lot of things lol. Least of all being sodomized by your priest. You have invested a lot of time in this thread, why can't you answer my simple questions?
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What was the murder rate in the wild west shootem up town of Dodge City Kansas in the 1880s.
Iirc it averaged out to about 2-3 per 100,000.
What is it in Detroit, Chitcago, Philly or St Louis now? You are on a heater here brother. First equating murder and suspected burglary, now comparing our modern day society to one of 150 years ago. Sorry you coundnt make the mental leap from a time when society was much more involved in taking care of neighborhood problems than is socially acceptable nowadays. When more self policing was the norm most criminals were rehabilitated before developing arm long rap sheets.
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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I knew you'd pussy out on the one, dumb fah uck.
Typical for you, every time you paint yourself into a corner you resort to a chucklehead response in an attempt to hide your ignorance.
I can't stop laughing... You're from the south, aren't you? Oh, and just to answer your incredibly stupid fugking question, take a stroll through Englewood sometime. It's in Chicago. Tell one of those young entrepreneur's on the street corner that you are going to call the police. When you get done with that eye opening experience, I got about 150 more I can give you. Take video. LMFAO There were 84,717 arrests in Chicago in 2018. What are you saying? That none of them were in Englewood? That they stopped arresting people between 2018 and now? 84,717 arrests doesn't sound "self-policed" to me.
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I knew you'd pussy out on the one, dumb fah uck.
Typical for you, every time you paint yourself into a corner you resort to a chucklehead response in an attempt to hide your ignorance.
I can't stop laughing... You're from the south, aren't you? Oh, and just to answer your incredibly stupid fugking question, take a stroll through Englewood sometime. It's in Chicago. Tell one of those young entrepreneur's on the street corner that you are going to call the police. When you get done with that eye opening experience, I got about 150 more I can give you. Take video. LMFAO There were 84,717 arrests in Chicago in 2018. What are you saying? That none of them were in Englewood? That they stopped arresting people between 2018 and now? 84,717 arrests doesn't sound "self-policed" to me. I love the confidence your google searches bring to the table. LOL Are you from the south?
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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So some probable theiving groid cased out a housing construction site.
More than likely looking for power tools to pawn or copper materials to sell.
Found nothing or confirmed schit to get later.
Gets seen by a couple of Bubba,s.
Hauls azz " supposedly jogging"
Gets killed by the father and son dynamic duo.
Good ole boy legal types write it off.
Justifiable homicide....
Ah huh.......
Video sufaces couple months later of the groid getting whacked.
Nother vid surfaces of groid casing the construction site.
WGAF........
Dynamic duo
15 to 20 manslaughter plea eventually.
Groids in area gonna riot.......
Even though dead groid was more than likely a fugging thief his entire life.
Dumbazz bubba,s.....
No need to go all supertackleberry " citizen arrest" and kill the groid.
Have fun in prison you 2 stupid fuggs.
The brothers in the joint gonna love you 2. That is if ya aint in Seg for your entire sentance.
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So you’ve gone from getting your analysis of applicable statutes and law from a lawyer who failed the bar three times to a dispatcher? I like how you’ve completely failed to address the analysis of the facts and statutes of Robert Barnes that I linked in this thread.
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Shotguns, chasing, trespassing, avoiding, fighting over a gun....what a mess....the force of stupid here is off the charts. One man dead, two men going to prison. I resent it being called a lynching, its just a political attempt to surface old wounds. OTOH, the two Mensa members made a decision that resulted in a mans death with the most serious crime he could be convicted of as robbery, they should do a long time in prison, I have zero sympathy for them. In my life I have inevitably found that extreme concentrations of stupid always result in a death or disability.
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I knew you'd pussy out on the one, dumb fah uck.
Typical for you, every time you paint yourself into a corner you resort to a chucklehead response in an attempt to hide your ignorance.
I can't stop laughing... You're from the south, aren't you? Oh, and just to answer your incredibly stupid fugking question, take a stroll through Englewood sometime. It's in Chicago. Tell one of those young entrepreneur's on the street corner that you are going to call the police. When you get done with that eye opening experience, I got about 150 more I can give you. Take video. LMFAO There were 84,717 arrests in Chicago in 2018. What are you saying? That none of them were in Englewood? That they stopped arresting people between 2018 and now? 84,717 arrests doesn't sound "self-policed" to me. I love the confidence your google searches bring to the table. LOL Are you from the south? Not Tyrone, but the south is where Mt and other places in Yankee land get their motion lotion and heating oil from. Of course, we get plenty of BS and DNC politicians from voters up north.
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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I can tell by looking at them and by their actions they are POS's. In which post did I give the jogger a pass.? He may have been a POS too, but that coupled with the crime of walking through an empty house under construction isn't a capital offense.
Your response implies that an execution took place, which it didn't. The two men armed themselves, as is their right, in order to defend themselves in the event that, while making a lawful arrest of a burglar, said burglar should resort to violence against them, which he in fact did. At which point, the right of lethal force in self-defense becomes the legal issue. The question of capital offense is an intentional red herring on your part, designed to cast the two defendants as villains.
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So you’ve gone from getting your analysis of applicable statutes and law from a lawyer who failed the bar three times to a dispatcher? I like how you’ve completely failed to address the analysis of the facts and statutes of Robert Barnes that I linked in this thread. It is entirely possible that I missed your links in this 120 page schidtshow. If you will post them again, I'll read and respond thoughtfully. Do you not believe the citizens arrest laws of the state of GA will come into play?
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If they were villainous pieces of schit intent upon executing an innocent black jogger, they were exceedingly incompetent at it. Hell, they nearly let said jogger take a shotgun away from one of them before they got around to shooting him. I don’t know what the world is coming to when a villainous racist piece of schit isn’t even smart enough to shoot a black man from the bed of a pickup at no risk to himself.
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So you’ve gone from getting your analysis of applicable statutes and law from a lawyer who failed the bar three times to a dispatcher? I like how you’ve completely failed to address the analysis of the facts and statutes of Robert Barnes that I linked in this thread. It is entirely possible that I missed your links in this 120 page schidtshow. If you will post them again, I'll read and respond thoughtfully. Do you not believe the citizens arrest laws of the state of GA will come into play? Probably, and they were probably following them and legally entitled to do what they did.
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I can tell by looking at them and by their actions they are POS's. In which post did I give the jogger a pass.? He may have been a POS too, but that coupled with the crime of walking through an empty house under construction isn't a capital offense.
Your response implies that an execution took place, which it didn't. The two men armed themselves, as is their right, in order to defend themselves in the event that, while making a lawful arrest of a burglar, said burglar should resort to violence against them, which he in fact did. At which point, the right of lethal force in self-defense becomes the legal issue. The question of capital offense is an intentional red herring on your part, designed to cast the two defendants as villains. Doesn't GA citizens arrest law require knowledge of a felony for a citizen to prevent a person from fleeing?
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I can tell by looking at them and by their actions they are POS's. In which post did I give the jogger a pass.? He may have been a POS too, but that coupled with the crime of walking through an empty house under construction isn't a capital offense. Your response implies that an execution took place, which it didn't. The two men armed themselves, as is their right, in order to defend themselves in the event that, while making a lawful arrest of a burglar, said burglar should resort to violence against them, which he in fact did. At which point, the right of lethal force in self-defense becomes the legal issue. The question of capital offense is an intentional red herring on your part, designed to cast the two defendants as villains. Doesn't GA citizens arrest law require knowledge of a felony for a citizen to prevent a person from fleeing? Joe provided a video this morning explaining this law, and how the two men were within their rights to make a citizen's arrest. Didn't you watch it?
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I can tell by looking at them and by their actions they are POS's. In which post did I give the jogger a pass.? He may have been a POS too, but that coupled with the crime of walking through an empty house under construction isn't a capital offense.
Your response implies that an execution took place, which it didn't. The two men armed themselves, as is their right, in order to defend themselves in the event that, while making a lawful arrest of a burglar, said burglar should resort to violence against them, which he in fact did. At which point, the right of lethal force in self-defense becomes the legal issue. The question of capital offense is an intentional red herring on your part, designed to cast the two defendants as villains. Doesn't GA citizens arrest law require knowledge of a felony for a citizen to prevent a person from fleeing? Nope.
A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.
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I can tell by looking at them and by their actions they are POS's. In which post did I give the jogger a pass.? He may have been a POS too, but that coupled with the crime of walking through an empty house under construction isn't a capital offense. Your response implies that an execution took place, which it didn't. The two men armed themselves, as is their right, in order to defend themselves in the event that, while making a lawful arrest of a burglar, said burglar should resort to violence against them, which he in fact did. At which point, the right of lethal force in self-defense becomes the legal issue. The question of capital offense is an intentional red herring on your part, designed to cast the two defendants as villains. Doesn't GA citizens arrest law require knowledge of a felony for a citizen to prevent a person from fleeing? Joe provided a video this morning explaining this law, and how the two men were within their rights to make a citizen's arrest. Didn't you watch it? I must have missed it.
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Still waiting for somebody else to get shot so this thread ends.
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Anyone who hates everyone of a certain group due to race, color or creed is a phugging retard.
Having said that, anyone who ignores the fact that a certain percentage of the people in those groups may or may not have a propensity to engage in certain activities, whether good or bad, is also a phugging retard. Doesn’t negate the fact that individuals within that group may or may not share the same values, characteristics, etc, commonly attributed to that group.
The problem with us as humans is that we tend to extremes. We tend to go overboard to one end of the spectrum or the other with everything, when usually the best course of action is right down the middle where common sense lives. . .
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