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I have more to lose than most bears, a wife and daughter that love me , a beautiful home and land that I live on and enjoy, a bear only has his hide to lose....

Whoa, it's almost like you admitted to me and everyone that you do risk vs gain assessment before you act.

No its already been done, the reasons that I would shoot a bear are very clear in my mind, it has nothing to do with risk, it has to do with priorities !

If they get convicted, they’re fuct.

If they don’t don’t convicted, they’re fuct.




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If you carry CCW, as many here do, then you are arming yourself while interacting with unarmed people every day. Why? Isn't it in order to defend yourself should someone bring unlawful violence your way? This is why these two men armed themselves, too. In fact, it was more likely they'd need to arm themselves for self-defense while attempting to make an arrest of a burglar than it is likely that you would need to arm yourself in order to make a run to the store for some milk.

Hahaha!

They shoulda just had a bigger grill guard then....for self defense you know.....

PS Several times in the past 10 years, my next door neighbor has texted me, asking me to check his house and property because his home security system alerted him via his smart phone. I obliged, and I was surely armed each time. Would that fact deny me a claim of self-defense if someone charged me and attempted to grab my gun?

You seem to think it's a legal slam dunk. It is not. The basis for the confrontation was a citizens arrest. GA law requires
that anyone effecting an arrest have knowledge of a crime, and that to prevent escape the crime would have to be a felony. During a phone call to 911 the party attempting to effect a citizens was an ex cop. An ex cop should be familiar enough with criminal offenses to articulate one when he sees it. Yet when asked multiple times what the suspect was doing wrong, the ex cop could not articulate a crime. You don't think that's a complicating factor. I do.

Now we have evidence of a previous encounter between the two. Unless I missed it, there was not a police report made. If there was, it doesn't appear the suspect was arrested for a crime. Tow encounters where no crime was identified. I think that's going to present legal problems with the claim of citizens arrest. You don't.

Are you interested in making a public bet on that?

If he was a thought to be a burglar, why couldn't the ex cop think to tell the 911 operator that when he was asked what the suspect did wrong?

Are you still at the residence, or did you see someone flee the residence then chase them down and block them while holding a firearm? PS, the last time I read FL law they were different from GAs in a very substantial way as it relates to this case.

Unless my neighbor called me from his home, and ask for my help while "actively" protecting himself and his family from harm, he can call the police, if he wants someone to risk their life for his stuff, that's what they get paid for , because if he has no actual skin in the game, then neither am I .

It was three times...

That admitted to.

Do you go in and out of consciousness while you read?

Your comparison is not very comparable to the situation at hand. But I am curious. If you had it to do and you could dispose of this case, what would you do? Bearing in mind that this happened on a public street? Personally I do believe chances are good that the "jogger" was not jogging and very well may have been casing the neighborhood. At least he was using bad judgement going onto private property in a redneck neighborhood but what right did non law enforcement neighborhood watch have in arresting his freedom of travel? The two white men especially the shooter are in serious legal jeopardy. They initiated a close quarters confrontation with a man on a public road. The "jogger" was clearly trying to disarm an attacker and I imagine it is going to be hard for the shooter to skate after initiating the contact.

jimy,

The clowns that are debating your point of view in this thread live their lives the exact same way.

They just like to pretend otherwise.

Depends.

Does he wear his plate carrier when he checks?

Ever show that neighbor some of the stuff you post on here?

When it all comes out, I'd be surprised if they even get convicted of manslaughter. Jigger had been seen to many times in places he didn't belong, guarantee he was there to steal schit. The two dudes that chased him down are fuqked, but I doubt they'll do any time on it. I'm betting they are out on bail before long.