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Again, exactly how many times is a man supposed to attempt to outrun a motor vehicle, before he turns to fight for his life? How many times did Arbery try to outrun a motor vehicle? It is quoted that he was cornered and escaped once and then chased down a second time.
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When I was a state game warden for 30 years very often a property owner would complain to me about trespassers. I would offer to help them capture a trespasser only if they would guarantee me they would sign their name as property owner on an affidavit in support of an arrest warrant or citation for trespass. All too often they backed out upon being told this. Was hard for them to understand that I couldn't win a charge without the victim verifying that his property was in fact violated illegally. At this point I would suggest they write a letter to the trespasser if he was known and advise him not to enter the property for any purpose. They usually wanted me to go talk to the suspected or known trespasser. I would tell them I wasn't a social worker and I needed the option of arrest if things went south and that I required a verified complaint from the property owner and his promise to support prosecution. Have we noticed the property owner in this case has washed his hands of ever complaining about trespassers. Now Dad and Jr. are in a world of spit for attempting to help a neighbor with trespass. They were stupid to do it but I can't help but feel sorry for everyone involved except the property owner who has now pretty well sided up against the folks who very stupidly tried to help him.
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I wonder what the legal ruling is when two people both fear for their lives and one is shot and killed in a forceful struggle for the weapon that one was holding? Does the premise that McMichael had no legal reason to attempt a citizens arrest, automatically make him guilty of some type of negligent homicide? As for the Dad in the back of the truck, he had no involvement in the struggle, so why would he have legal jeopardy. The McMichaels were foolish to confront someone with weapons displayed, but wonder how this would all play out if all involved were black or if all involved were white.
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Give me a link to that statement.
I like you and everyone here rely on what News reports have said. here however are the exact words from a pdf file of the email correspondence by DA Barnhill to Cpt. Tom Jump Glynn County (23 Feb.) based on what Mcmichael reportedly gave in his statement. Quote].. [i] "It appears Travis McMichael, Greg McMichael, and Bryan William were following, in hot pursuit, a burglary suspect, with solid first hand probable cause,in their neighborhood, and asking/telling him to stop.It appears their intent was to stop and hold this criminal suspect until law enforcement arrived. " (Barnhill also cites the statute he believes is applicable) OCGA17-4 60 >>" A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.” .. Endquote] ***** JB, You being an attorney, how about you provide your source to support your baloney claim the McMichaels only wanted to talk to Arbery ?
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Again, exactly how many times is a man supposed to attempt to outrun a motor vehicle, before he turns to fight for his life? How many times did Arbery try to outrun a motor vehicle? Man.... you sure suck at this internet thing. The video is 4min’s of them chasing him down and him escaping. Its obvious he had, had enough at the conclusion. Seems you pro killers were boomdoggled by the media LMAO....
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I wonder what the legal ruling is when two people both fear for their lives and one is shot and killed in a forceful struggle for the weapon that one was holding? Does the premise that McMichael had no legal reason to attempt a citizens arrest, automatically make him guilty of some type of negligent homicide? As for the Dad in the back of the truck, he had no involvement in the struggle, so why would he have legal jeopardy. The McMichaels were foolish to confront someone with weapons displayed, but wonder how this would all play out if all involved were black or if all involved were white. How do you not "display" a shotgun when lawfully carrying it openly?
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.......although between August 2019 and Feb. 23, records show 87 calls from Satilla Shores reporting various activity, including suspicious behavior, trespassing and thefts.
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I don't know that, that video helps anybody. LOL
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Arbery ran, and police chased and arrested him.
A second officer arrived shortly and forced Arbery to his knees with the threat of his Taser.
Arbery tried to stand up as he argued about whether he had done anything. The officer handcuffed Arbery face-down on the asphalt.
Arbery and Travis McMichael struggle. Several shots ring out. Arbery takes a few final steps, then collapses. All different incidents....... Anyone see any trends? Same link
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Oh probably not, but it gives a little insight into his 'personality'
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.......although between August 2019 and Feb. 23, records show 87 calls from Satilla Shores reporting various activity, including suspicious behavior, trespassing and thefts. And joggers wonder why people don't like them.
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Oh probably not, but it gives a little insight into his 'personality' what was he doing wrong in the video that warranted the police talking to him.....bob
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Does anybody have this full 4:00 video?
I can't seem to locate it.
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You put it back in the holster, of course. Any gun in view is brandishing.....to those that watch NBC and CNN. Those that contribute to this race hustle. I wonder what the legal ruling is when two people both fear for their lives and one is shot and killed in a forceful struggle for the weapon that one was holding? Does the premise that McMichael had no legal reason to attempt a citizens arrest, automatically make him guilty of some type of negligent homicide? As for the Dad in the back of the truck, he had no involvement in the struggle, so why would he have legal jeopardy. The McMichaels were foolish to confront someone with weapons displayed, but wonder how this would all play out if all involved were black or if all involved were white. How do you not "display" a shotgun when lawfully carrying it openly?
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Sure verified his choir boy image with me. Oh probably not, but it gives a little insight into his 'personality'
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When I was a state game warden for 30 years very often a property owner would complain to me about trespassers. I would offer to help them capture a trespasser only if they would guarantee me they would sign their name as property owner on an affidavit in support of an arrest warrant or citation for trespass. All too often they backed out upon being told this. Was hard for them to understand that I couldn't win a charge without the victim verifying that his property was in fact violated illegally. At this point I would suggest they write a letter to the trespasser if he was known and advise him not to enter the property for any purpose. They usually wanted me to go talk to the suspected or known trespasser. I would tell them I wasn't a social worker and I needed the option of arrest if things went south and that I required a verified complaint from the property owner and his promise to support prosecution. Have we noticed the property owner in this case has washed his hands of ever complaining about trespassers. Now Dad and Jr. are in a world of spit for attempting to help a neighbor with trespass. They were stupid to do it but I can't help but feel sorry for everyone involved except the property owner who has now pretty well sided up against the folks who very stupidly tried to help him. Ahh yes. Liberals.. who don't want to be "involved".
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I think the one cop should be glad his taser malfunctioned....
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Oh probably not, but it gives a little insight into his 'personality' Should people be murdered for personality? Land of the free.....
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Oh probably not, but it gives a little insight into his 'personality' what was he doing wrong in the video that warranted the police talking to him.....bob A bad personality apparently..... It appears most on here dont get that police arent supposed to just roll up on you to investigate. I see plastic in your car? Lmao.... uumm what? You see a plastic bag in my car? Now you suspect me of drug use..... Theres the obvious, then there is the technical. The technical is what matters.
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