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Question:

Was Ahmaud’s vehicle parked on public or private property?

Would that affect your opinion in the least?

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Oh probably not, but it gives a little insight into his 'personality'



what was he doing wrong in the video that warranted the police talking to him.....bob


A bad personality apparently.....

It appears most on here dont get that police arent supposed to just roll up on you to investigate.

I see plastic in your car? Lmao.... uumm what? You see a plastic bag in my car? Now you suspect me of drug use.....

Theres the obvious, then there is the technical. The technical is what matters.



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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
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Again, exactly how many times is a man supposed to attempt to outrun a motor vehicle, before he turns to fight for his life?


How many times did Arbery try to outrun a motor vehicle?

It is quoted that he was cornered and escaped once and then chased down a second time.


Once is one time too many.

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Arbery ran, and police chased and arrested him.

A second officer arrived shortly and forced Arbery to his knees with the threat of his Taser.

Arbery tried to stand up as he argued about whether he had done anything. The officer handcuffed Arbery face-down on the asphalt.

Arbery and Travis McMichael struggle. Several shots ring out. Arbery takes a few final steps, then collapses.


All different incidents.......

Anyone see any trends?

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Originally Posted by BobMt
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Oh probably not, but it gives a little insight into his 'personality'



what was he doing wrong in the video that warranted the police talking to him.....bob

Loitering.

The video gives insight into his level of respect for lawful authority and his quickness to rage and to engage in threatening behavior. If he would behave that threateningly to a police officer, what might he do if challenged by a regular Joe or Jane?

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Originally Posted by RatherBHuntin
As for the Dad in the back of the truck, he had no involvement in the struggle, so why would he have legal jeopardy.


Felony piss-poor parenting. Hanging offence.

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The McMichaels were foolish to confront someone with weapons displayed, but wonder how this would all play out if all involved were black or if all involved were white.


Imagine two black guys ran down a white jogular guy and shot him? There would be HELL TO PAY on campfire....

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Originally Posted by Ejp1234
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Oh probably not, but it gives a little insight into his 'personality'



Should people be murdered for personality?

Land of the free.....

Red herring. That's not the question. Knowledge of his disrespect for lawful authority, and quickness to rage and behave in a threatening manner is relevant to a claim that he was the aggressor in a self-defense shooting.

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Seriously.

Does anybody have the link to the four minute video?

I can't find it in this thread.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by BobMt
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Oh probably not, but it gives a little insight into his 'personality'



what was he doing wrong in the video that warranted the police talking to him.....bob

Loitering.

The video gives insight into his level of respect for lawful authority and his quickness to rage and to engage in threatening behavior. If he would behave that threateningly to a police officer, what might he do if challenged by a regular Joe or Jane?


Loitering in his car at a park? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
More personality here.


Fine, upstanding, young man, by all appearances.

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Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
Question:

Was Ahmaud’s vehicle parked on public or private property?

Would that affect your opinion in the least?

Originally Posted by Ejp1234
Originally Posted by BobMt
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Oh probably not, but it gives a little insight into his 'personality'



what was he doing wrong in the video that warranted the police talking to him.....bob


A bad personality apparently.....

It appears most on here dont get that police arent supposed to just roll up on you to investigate.

I see plastic in your car? Lmao.... uumm what? You see a plastic bag in my car? Now you suspect me of drug use.....

Theres the obvious, then there is the technical. The technical is what matters.



No, not in the least. He wasnt breaking any laws as the officer said. The officer said he was investigating suspicious behavior, as they have a lot of “gang and drug” activity in that specific area of the park.

In this country you have the presumption of innocence... investigating suspicious activity because someone is in their parked car is not suspicious..... it would not fit reasonable! I would have told the cop to piss off too!

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
More personality here.


Fine, upstanding, young man, by all appearances.


But...

Does that warrant him being chased down and shot by the McMichaels in the United States, where we have freedom... freedom of speech, which is being displayed?

No... no it doesnt. Freedoms go all ways, and just because you dont like what someone says doesnt mean its a crime.

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Originally Posted by Ejp1234

Loitering in his car at a park? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Cop was inquiring into his purpose in being there under the suspicion of loitering (hanging out somewhere for an illegal purpose). He could have remained calm and non-threatening, and simply stated his purpose. Like it or not, most crimes are committed by people matching his description, and cops are naturally more likely to inquire about purpose when they come across someone of his description apparently loitering. It would be stupid for cops to ignore the overwhelming odds that someone of his description, in circumstances like when they came upon him, was engaged in an illegal activity of one sort or another. They are allowed to inquire. How people react to that lawful inquiry can often get them in trouble.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Ejp1234

Loitering in his car at a park? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Cop was inquiring into his purpose in being there under the suspicion of loitering (hanging out somewhere for an illegal purpose). He could have remained calm and non-threatening, and simply stated his purpose. Like it or not, most crimes are committed by people matching his description, and cops are naturally more likely to inquire about purpose when they come across someone of his description apparently loitering. It would be stupid for cops to ignore the overwhelming odds that someone of his description, in circumstances like when they came upon him, was engaged in an illegal activity of one sort or another. They are allowed to inquire. How people react to that lawful inquiry can often get them in trouble.


Huh.. who knew, you support a communist police state..

Like it or not, he wasnt loitering. Like it or not he should be presumed innocent until he proves otherwise. Like it or not, police arent here to investigate based on their suspicion, they are here to serve and protect everyone.

You just proved your true ignorance of our rights.

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Originally Posted by Ejp1234
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Ejp1234

Loitering in his car at a park? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Cop was inquiring into his purpose in being there under the suspicion of loitering (hanging out somewhere for an illegal purpose). He could have remained calm and non-threatening, and simply stated his purpose. Like it or not, most crimes are committed by people matching his description, and cops are naturally more likely to inquire about purpose when they come across someone of his description apparently loitering. It would be stupid for cops to ignore the overwhelming odds that someone of his description, in circumstances like when they came upon him, was engaged in an illegal activity of one sort or another. They are allowed to inquire. How people react to that lawful inquiry can often get them in trouble.


Huh.. who knew, you support a communist police state..

Like it or not, he wasnt loitering. Like it or not he should be presumed innocent until he proves otherwise. Like it or not, police arent here to investigate based on their suspicion, they are here to serve and protect everyone.

You just proved your true ignorance of our rights.


Debating a video that is as heavily edited as that one is pretty pointless.


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Well... he is stating the guy was loitering so the cop was investigating. Being a Constitutional Conservative, Id expect him to understand the Constitution. The 14th Amendment covers this.

Chicago vs Morales....

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I didnt watch the walmart video... i thought we were still on the park...

I will say he wasnt a camera shy guy....

But non of this warrants him being chased, detained or shot by the McMichaels, non....

Its all irrelevant. They still killed him, they still chased him, and they still got involved in something tbey werent supposed to be in....

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Originally Posted by Ejp1234
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Oh probably not, but it gives a little insight into his 'personality'
Should people be murdered for personality? Land of the free.....
I sure hope not. If so I'm toast.


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Originally Posted by Ejp1234
I didnt watch the walmart video... i thought we were still on the park...

I will say he wasnt a camera shy guy....

But non of this warrants him being chased, detained or shot by the McMichaels, non....

Its all irrelevant. They still killed him, they still chased him, and they still got involved in something tbey werent supposed to be in....



It's doubtful either video could be admitted anyway.


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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
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