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Only a leftist thinks he has a right not to be profiled in accordance with overwhelming statistics and repeated observation.

What right does profiling violate?

It's a public park.

That's the whole purpose of a public park.

The cop malfunctioned, not the taser.

That edited videos shows:

1.) A consensual encounter between subject and primary officer
2.) Subject compliant
3.) Subject detained
4.) Subject becoming belligerent while still adhering to voice commands given by the officer
5.) Subject continuing to adhere to voice commands given by an officer
6.) Officer advising subject he has no wants or warrants
7.) Second officer's (failed) attempt to escalate the level of force
8.) Primary officer advising secondary that the subject is unarmed
9.) Arrival of supervisor on scene
10.) No arrest made

I didn't say he was loitering (hanging out in a public place for an unlawful purpose). I said the cop has a right to approach someone he thinks might be loitering (even if based strictly on a hunch) and ask questions about whether or not he was. Just like I could do that, if I chose to. There are no laws against asking people questions, and you aren't allowed to intentionally place me in fear of physical harm for doing so (aggressive posturing, approaching with flailing arms while shouting and cursing angrily, etc.). That would be a crime.

Not at all. Parks exist to give cops the opportunity to profile, harass, arrest, bully and generally raise hell with black people. You know that.

Yea, honesty and not thievin' sheit from people is very Anti-Amercian. You are the dumbest fuqk on the Fire.

We've already established that nothign was theived and the jogger was carrying nothing. So, in terms of dumbest fuqk, you have me beat by miles.

You really know he wasn't a jogger, right? You're just pretending not to know that, right?

You know he actually was a jogger. The video has him jogging. And where was all the loot? $2500 of fishing poles doesn't fit in his pocket.

loitering
verb
gerund or present participle: loitering
stand or wait around idly or without apparent purpose.
"she saw Mary loitering near the cloakrooms"

There's no implied unlawful purpose in the term loitering, that's something you decided to add.

As for cops just approaching someone to ask questions, as Dave has said you might want to brush up on the requirement of reasonable suspension for police to initiate an investigation.

All of the videos do. He looks like a jogger, sounds like a jogger, acts like a jogger. No doubt he is a jogger.

the The_Real_Hawkeye knows that he wasn't. I love how you guys know all this stuff. So cool be so full of knowledge like that.

LMAO!

You don't find definitions to legal terms of art in standard dictionaries.

I’m happy to answer any questions you may have, as well as help you find a resource for things outside my areas of expertise.

Jogging or walking is a perfect cover for casing out a place or seeing if some lonely female wants to strike up a conversation or if you're a child molester. When I was in the LSU law enforcement academy back in 1981 I remember there was a certain type of sexual assault/murder that was always the neighborhood "walker". I don't blame anyone for being suspicious of strangers on foot. As I've said before, he was probably up to no good but the way those white boys handled it was a total screwup.

Well, please tell us what each of the participants in this little dust up was thinking immediately prior to their joint encounter. You know, a little omniscience goes a long ways.

Pushing a pram with a real live baby is even better for "casing out a place." Joggers jog and its hard to case when running.

Obviously I can’t know that, no one can.

Even the people involved can only know what they were thinking but not any of the others. On top of that their ability of even the living to accurately recall thoughts from that long ago is suspect.