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The road in front of my house has cars driving up and down it all day and some even after dark!
There are no barriers, there is nothing to stop a car if one were to turn and head off the road.
They could hit my house, worse yet they could hit one of my children!
The state needs to do something about this it's so dangerous and nobody will listen to me...
They either need to put an end to cars driving on these roads or build barriers strong enough to hold cars back to save my poor family... Do you actually think before you start typing.....? How long have you been retarded...? OH, never mind as that may be a difficult question, how about, how old are you?
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Do you have any pics of this? I'd really like to see it as it sounds pretty interesting. No pics, but anyone with a few brain cells to rub together should be able to figure it out. Go to a trucking company or a big truck tire shop and scavenge up about a dozen worn out tires. They'll probably give them to you. Build a wood or metal rack that puts the hole in the tire at shooting bench height and stand the tires up side by side. Drill holes in the sidewalls and bolt them together with fender washers so you create a long tube.to shoot through. The air chambers of the tires create a series of baffles to absorb the pressure waves that cause the sound to travel. It's just like a suppressor on steroids. A side benefit is that it creates a glare-proof tunnel so you can shoot with the sun behind the target- - - -no glare that wipes out the scope picture. Jerry Won't work to solve her problem. The loudest noise comes from the sonic boom of the bullet. A 50BMG is still supersonic after it leaves the tires. And it won't solve the ricochet problem down range. I'm no expert but I've been associated with two ranges that had ricochet problems from rifle bullets off the berm. I don't think the range inthe photo is safe. Get range safety guidlines from the NRA and then file an injunction. Shouldn't matter if there is a Florida statute. The issue is endangering lives, not following some ordnance. Indy, You really need to stop displaying your ignorance on this one. As has already been pointed out, anyone, who during their time in the service, or at long range matches, has worked down range pit duty, and had bullets fly directly over their head at supersonic speeds, knows you above claim JUST ISN'T TRUE. AS: All I can say is that, as an NRA-classified Lifetime Master in High Power Rifle since 1961, I've been in the pits while thousands of rounds went about 6 feet over my head. The firing line was 200 yards away. the "crack" from the bullet was MUCH LOUDER than the rifle's report, which was heard a fraction of a second later. Now it may be that the berm (behind me) absorbs some of the sound of the rifle's report. But consider this: The impact area (in front of me) at my club is about 50 feet high, with the bullets impacting near the bottom. Behind that is a street about 600 feet away. One time I was on that street during a rapid fire (about 4 shooters firing 40 shots total in 60 seconds) match. I thought the sound was pretty loud and obnoxious. Sometimes while in the pits I've seen bullets ricochet and hit the hill in back, about 10 feet or so up from the initial impact. I don't think the so-called berm in the photo at the start of this thread would provide protection from such a ricochet. I think this about covers it:
Time to chime in!!!!
Fugging rds zipping by ya sound like a green branch loudly snapping.
Thats about it.....
BTDT all over this planet in training and in firefights.
It aint a fugging F16 nearing the sound barrier and then breaking it
Immediately over your position...
Not some fugging hearing destroying schitt like some wanta think.
JFC.......
What destroys your hearing is concussive repeative shearing pulse muzzle blast.
Especially in close proximity of the effects of it on the immediate flanks of a gun muzzle...
Backing off the edge of a adjacent wpn system being fired even 1 or 2 ft when you find yourself in that circumstance.
Your fugging bell wont be rocked as severely or at all....
BTDT
Way too many times to count.
And sometimes you cant fugging move or its an after the fact event.
Oh P.S......
Graduate of 24 yrs of service in the Infantry.
Holder of surface danger zone training certificates.
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Turned down Goat fugg Montgomery County shooting complex range directors job.
Now back to the " Why cant I get my way Mistykins show"
LMFAO!!!!!
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Misty,
you have a problem, and in your opinion a serious problem. And you are quite possibly right. Good luck with getting a judge to agree with you that the neighbor's range is "unsafe", and having that judge agree to stop him from using it in the manner he is using.
From everything you've posted so far, it would appear he has the "right" to shoot on his property. It may not be safe, or neighborly. But, from what you, and a couple of others, have posted, it seems in FL he has the legal right to shoot on his property.
I have the legal right on my property to buy a chain saw and start cutting down trees. Without wearing hearing protection, gloves, chaps, etc. It may not be safe, but it is legal. I can even cut down trees with no training in felling a tree whatsoever. I can cut them right next to my neighbor's fence. I can do it during all legal hours to make that kind of noise. I can leave them to turn brown and rot into the ground in an unsightly manner directly in front of my neighbor's picture window. Until I drop one on one of the neighbors' fences, or damage their property, there is not much they can do.
I have empty lots around me. If a new neighbor moves in across the street and decides to get a donkey or 6, not much I can do except listen to donkey music.
In my experience, neighbors can either be a great addition to life...................or a complete pain in the ass. Usually more of the latter than the former.
Best of luck dealing with someone who likely bought his 5 acres in order to get away from folks that didn't like him shooting on his property. It would seem that the two parties involved here made some decisions that didn't work out well for either party.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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Misty,
you have a problem, and in your opinion a serious problem. And you are quite possibly right. Good luck with getting a judge to agree with you that the neighbor's range is "unsafe", and having that judge agree to stop him from using it in the manner he is using.
From everything you've posted so far, it would appear he has the "right" to shoot on his property. It may not be safe, or neighborly. But, from what you, and a couple of others, have posted, it seems in FL he has the legal right to shoot on his property.
I have the legal right on my property to buy a chain saw and start cutting down trees. Without wearing hearing protection, gloves, chaps, etc. It may not be safe, but it is legal. I can even cut down trees with no training in felling a tree whatsoever. I can cut them right next to my neighbor's fence. I can do it during all legal hours to make that kind of noise. I can leave them to turn brown and rot into the ground in an unsightly manner directly in front of my neighbor's picture window. Until I drop one on one of the neighbors' fences, or damage their property, there is not much they can do.
I have empty lots around me. If a new neighbor moves in across the street and decides to get a donkey or 6, not much I can do except listen to donkey music.
In my experience, neighbors can either be a great addition to life...................or a complete pain in the ass. Usually more of the latter than the former.
Best of luck dealing with someone who likely bought his 5 acres in order to get away from folks that didn't like him shooting on his property. It would seem that the two parties involved here made some decisions that didn't work out well for either party.
Thanks Valsdad you are correct that right now the way it is written it is legal and he has been warned that once anything crosses property lines he is no longer legal, we are just trying to either get him to make a proper back stop like he said or turn it because with the caliber and fully auto he is currently shooting and as close as these houses are, there sadly just isn't room for that kind of error so we would like to correct the situation before it's too late, and you would think he would want to as well but his words were " it's a risk he was willing to take" .
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1 Any parent truly concerned that their child is in danger moves the child out of danger right the fugg now. Said parent does not send said child out to play in the perceived danger zone, and dare the neighbor to injure said child. Unless, of course, it is supposed that said injury would be a furtherance toward litigation. So, one of two things is true. Either the mother does not truly believe any danger exists, or else the mother is willing to sacrifice the life of the child in her vendetta against the offending neighbor. 2 Is any person struck in the head by a 60 gr bullet at 2900 fps, or a 150 gr bullet at 2900 fps any less dead than a person struck in the head by a 750 gr bullet at 2900 fps? Is the person less dead if said bullet is fired from a Ruger #1, than if it were fired from an AR 15, than if it were fired from an M-16? Since the answers to these questions are plainly obvious to any with an IQ above 80, why then all the rhetoric about "50 BMG", "military grade", and "full auto" weapons? Looking for sympathy votes from the woefully ill-informed? 3 Claims of hearing loss suffered from inside a house by gunfire situated 500 ft from her house? By a person who claims to be an avid shooter? That would be like me suing my employer for my hearing loss when I spent years running chainsaws, riding dirt bikes, and a lifetime shooting guns. It is not going to fly. I would suggest such a compainant purchase a recording graph sound meter and demonstrate a history of sustained sound levels inside her home in excess of 80 decibels, and demonstrate that the source of that sustained noise level is the neighbor's gunfire. I would guess that is not happening. Claims of hearing loss attributed to the neighbor's gunfire are spurious at best, most likely malicious. Hint: My benchrest is about sixty feet from the master bedroom window in our mobile home. My wife usually is not even aware that I am shooting the 22-250, 243, 6MM, or 260. She does hear the 30-06, and she definitely heard when I was shooting a MK V in 340 Wea with a Wea muzzle brake installed. Oh, no she does not suffer any hearing loss. Since sound dissipates at a cube rate with distance, the muzzle blast is 1/125,000,000 as loud at 500 feet as it is at one foot. It is exponential, man!  (I am welcome to any more versed in physics to correct me if I am mistaken in this calculation) The "Sonic Crack" of the bullet has no relevance, as it never passes over the house in question. Someone here is throwing a whole lot of schitt against the wall in hopes some of it will stick. And, who the hell knows? With the preponderance of liberal anti gun judges infesting our courts today, she just might win. Everyone in the county might very well end up driving fifty miles to find a place to legally fire a weapon.
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Shes exhausted every possible news source so now shes down to posting on the Fire..... What Rambo Barbie Isn't Saying Here Rural gun range puts Weeki Wachee neighbors at odds “I’m all for guns. Some of my friends call me Rambo Barbie,” Misty Cintron said........................ The owner of the range that’s being built is going above and beyond - spending tens of thousands of dollars to make sure that the range is safe. In a statement, Hernando County Code Enforcement said the owner is working with those officials to make sure the range meets requirements, which he says will include an 18-foot-high dirt berm. He also plans to build a 40-foot backstop wall on top of the berm. He says he will exceed the legal requirements – but that’s little comfort to some of his neighbors. https://www.fox13news.com/news/rural-gun-range-puts-weeki-wachee-neighbors-at-oddsNeighbors Oppose Private Gun Range in Weeki Wachee Neighborhood The range owner told his neighbors he owns a range of firearms from .22 to .50 caliber that shoot a variety of bullets. He said he made sure when buying the rural property that he would be able to shoot guns on it and that safety is his top priority in building the range. According to him, a backstop has been built that's currently 18 feet tall. He said he plans to apply for an engineering permit to continue adding onto it, and that the backstop will ultimately be 40-45 feet tall. A Hernando County Sheriff's Office report dated Oct. 30 states that the backstop met and exceeded safety requirements based on the condition of the range at the time. It also noted that the owner appeared to be following the state law that addresses recreational shooting in a residential area. Hernando County Code Enforcement said the owner wasn't in violation as far as land use. Neighbors said another issue is that the range points in the direction of their homes. Misty Cintron said about 240 feet of woods separated the range from her home -- too close for comfort. The property owner said he offered to turn the range slightly, but that neighbors didn't like that idea, either. "No crime has happened, no law has been broken, but we still feel we are in dire peril," said neighbors. Neighbors have spoken with State Rep. Blaise Ingoglia about the issue, as well as the sheriff's office. They've been told that there's nothing that can be done since the owner isn't in violation of laws or codes. https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2019/11/22/weeki-wachee-private-gun-rangeFlorida Man Frightens Neighbors by Building Backyard Gun Range In a Friday report, neighbor Misty Cintron told WFTS that her family began to fear for their safety two weeks ago when they noticed their neighbor building a gun range near their home in rural Weeki Wachi, Florida.............................. ...........Florida law allows homeowners to build and use a shooting range as long as their land extends beyond an acre. Cintron's property is less than an acre, so shooting a weapon from her property would be illegal. However, her neighbor is legally allowed to build the range and fire weapons because he is on a larger piece of land.......................... ..........................."The fact that he can shoot at me, and I can't shoot at him is not equal protection," said Cintron to the outlet. "The fact that there is not a clear distance, and he is shooting military-grade weapons that are not accessible to the average person in Florida, that's not equal protection. My local enforcement is not able to fully protect me, so they are violating my right my civil rights." The man claims the range poses no threat to his neighbors. Cintron disagrees, and suggests that bullets and shrapnel could easily make it onto her property....................... .............The range owner, who is said to be a legally licensed commercial gun dealer, claims he plans to make improvements to the barrier. The man claims that he offered to move it "slightly to the right." "Safety, safety, safety, is my top priority," the man told WFTS. "I'm not even close to being done yet." https://www.newsweek.com/florida-man-frightens-neighbors-building-backyard-gun-range-1473652Florida Couple Flips Out Over Neighbor’s Backyard Range One couple in Florida are learning this the hard way, after a neighbor began building a 100-yard range on his property behind their house in Weeki Wachee. Cintron and her husband Jason said they built a home in the rural community for a better life. A few weeks ago, they noticed a large clearing behind their house. “The fact that he can shoot at me, and I can’t shoot at him is not equal protection. The fact that there is not a clear distance, and he is shooting military-grade weapons that are not accessible to the average person in Florida, that’s not equal protection. My local enforcement is not able to fully protect me, so they are violating my right my civil rights.”First of all, Cintron’s neighbor isn’t going to be shooting “at her.” He says the backstop is going to be 45 feet high, which will be more than enough to prevent any bullet from going anywhere near Cintron’s home. I don’t even know what she means when she says he’s shooting “military grade weapons” that the average civilian can’t get their hands on, but the gentleman in question told WFTS-TV in Florida most of his shooting will be using handguns. Cintron said the county informed her Thursday night the county found no code or statutory violations with the building of the gun range.
The builder told us he plans to finish the home and range in the next 10 months. He invited us out to shoot and verify for ourselves how safe it was.
Cintron said he invited her too. She isn’t taking him up on that offer.
“My daughter is going to be fully prepared to at my death to take on the state that they failed me,” Cintron said.Before I go any further, let me say that I am somewhat sympathetic to Cintron and her husband. When they moved in, they were expecting a quiet rural place. Now a guy’s building his personal gun range with a firing line about 175 yards from their house. Their life will undoubtably change once this guy moves in and starts shooting, and they’re probably going to be miserable. That sucks, and if I hated the sound of gun fire and didn’t want my neighbor to have a backyard range that backed up to my property, I’d probably be looking for another place I could move into within the next ten months. However, the homeowner’s not doing anything against the law. He’s within his rights to have a range on his property, and Cintron is not, because her parcel of land isn’t big enough. He’s building his range safely, and there’ve been no code violations. More importantly, if this guy really wanted to hurt Cintron, as she seems to believe is the case, I don’t think he’d go through all the trouble of building a range in his backyard, and then try to fake an accidental and negligent shooting. I’m guessing this guy is exactly what he told Cintron he was; a dude who’s excited and happy about having a place on his property where he can go shoot safely. I totally get it; it’s a wonderful feeling. In fact, just thinking about it makes me want to cut this piece short and head down to my shooting spot, but I will force myself to push through and reward myself with a quick trip to empty a few magazines as soon as this gets posted. Should he have moved the range to make the couple happy, even if that meant shortening the range to 75 yards? I don’t think I would have, because if I were this guy, I wouldn’t be convinced that the move would ultimately satisfy the Cintrons. This couple went to the local news station hoping for sympathy because they have no legal recourse. While I don’t think Cintron’s in any danger from her neighbor’s backyard range, at least based on what I’ve seen, she will be hearing gunshots on a regular basis, and from not too far away. Her neighbor is doing his due diligence to ensure the range is safe, but I don’t know what he’ll be able to do about the sound short of using suppressors. You just know as soon as that range starts getting used the local TV station’s getting another call. https://bearingarms.com/cam-e/2019/11/23/florida-couple-flips-out-over-neighbors-backyard-range/
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The backstop looks sufficient to me.
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This is a classic scenario regardless of a gun range. Homeowner ‘A’ buys a rural property an acre or two in size. They assume the current land use of their neighbors (or lack thereof) will remain the same. The surrounding land use changes or develops and homeowner ‘A’ get pissy. Buy a bigger piece of land next time.sorry
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Do you have any pics of this? I'd really like to see it as it sounds pretty interesting. No pics, but anyone with a few brain cells to rub together should be able to figure it out. Go to a trucking company or a big truck tire shop and scavenge up about a dozen worn out tires. They'll probably give them to you. Build a wood or metal rack that puts the hole in the tire at shooting bench height and stand the tires up side by side. Drill holes in the sidewalls and bolt them together with fender washers so you create a long tube.to shoot through. The air chambers of the tires create a series of baffles to absorb the pressure waves that cause the sound to travel. It's just like a suppressor on steroids. A side benefit is that it creates a glare-proof tunnel so you can shoot with the sun behind the target- - - -no glare that wipes out the scope picture. Jerry Won't work to solve her problem. The loudest noise comes from the sonic boom of the bullet. A 50BMG is still supersonic after it leaves the tires. And it won't solve the ricochet problem down range. I'm no expert but I've been associated with two ranges that had ricochet problems from rifle bullets off the berm. I don't think the range inthe photo is safe. Get range safety guidlines from the NRA and then file an injunction. Shouldn't matter if there is a Florida statute. The issue is endangering lives, not following some ordnance. Indy, You really need to stop displaying your ignorance on this one. As has already been pointed out, anyone, who during their time in the service, or at long range matches, has worked down range pit duty, and had bullets fly directly over their head at supersonic speeds, knows you above claim JUST ISN'T TRUE. AS: All I can say is that, as an NRA-classified Lifetime Master in High Power Rifle since 1961, I've been in the pits while thousands of rounds went about 6 feet over my head. The firing line was 200 yards away. the "crack" from the bullet was MUCH LOUDER than the rifle's report, which was heard a fraction of a second later. Now it may be that the berm (behind me) absorbs some of the sound of the rifle's report. But consider this: The impact area (in front of me) at my club is about 50 feet high, with the bullets impacting near the bottom. Behind that is a street about 600 feet away. One time I was on that street during a rapid fire (about 4 shooters firing 40 shots total in 60 seconds) match. I thought the sound was pretty loud and obnoxious. Sometimes while in the pits I've seen bullets ricochet and hit the hill in back, about 10 feet or so up from the initial impact. I don't think the so-called berm in the photo at the start of this thread would provide protection from such a ricochet. I think this about covers it:
Time to chime in!!!!
Fugging rds zipping by ya sound like a green branch loudly snapping.
Thats about it.....
BTDT all over this planet in training and in firefights.
It aint a fugging F16 nearing the sound barrier and then breaking it
Immediately over your position...
Not some fugging hearing destroying schitt like some wanta think.
JFC.......
What destroys your hearing is concussive repeative shearing pulse muzzle blast.
Especially in close proximity of the effects of it on the immediate flanks of a gun muzzle...
Backing off the edge of a adjacent wpn system being fired even 1 or 2 ft when you find yourself in that circumstance.
Your fugging bell wont be rocked as severely or at all....
BTDT
Way too many times to count.
And sometimes you cant fugging move or its an after the fact event.
Oh P.S......
Graduate of 24 yrs of service in the Infantry.
Holder of surface danger zone training certificates.
Holder of ammo67/range hazmat certificates.
Holder of aerial and indirect fires coordination certificates.
Small arms and manuver range operator and repairer to include shoot house,s. 9mm to .50 for 3 yrs after I retired at FTCKY.
Turned down Goat fugg Montgomery County shooting complex range directors job.
Now back to the " Why cant I get my way Mistykins show"
LMFAO!!!!!
AS: Don't think so. Everyone in our pits wears hearing protection. Why would anyone who was in the infantry know anything? My son is a field grade infantry officer (I'd bet Renegade wasn't). The infantry nowadays barely ever shoots their rifles and most of them are very poor shots. A bunch of my civilian friends who had lots of leg points (that's a credential for being a good shot) were asked to volunteer to go to Ft. Benning and train the the instructors how to train troops how to shoot 77 grain SMKs. Most of the troops didn't know how to adjust M16 sights and some didn't even know they were adjustable.
Don't blame me. I voted for Trump.
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Shes exhausted every possible news source so now shes down to posting on the Fire..... What Rambo Barbie Isn't Saying Here Rural gun range puts Weeki Wachee neighbors at odds “I’m all for guns. Some of my friends call me Rambo Barbie,” Misty Cintron said........................ The owner of the range that’s being built is going above and beyond - spending tens of thousands of dollars to make sure that the range is safe. In a statement, Hernando County Code Enforcement said the owner is working with those officials to make sure the range meets requirements, which he says will include an 18-foot-high dirt berm. He also plans to build a 40-foot backstop wall on top of the berm. He says he will exceed the legal requirements – but that’s little comfort to some of his neighbors. https://www.fox13news.com/news/rural-gun-range-puts-weeki-wachee-neighbors-at-oddsNeighbors Oppose Private Gun Range in Weeki Wachee Neighborhood The range owner told his neighbors he owns a range of firearms from .22 to .50 caliber that shoot a variety of bullets. He said he made sure when buying the rural property that he would be able to shoot guns on it and that safety is his top priority in building the range. According to him, a backstop has been built that's currently 18 feet tall. He said he plans to apply for an engineering permit to continue adding onto it, and that the backstop will ultimately be 40-45 feet tall. A Hernando County Sheriff's Office report dated Oct. 30 states that the backstop met and exceeded safety requirements based on the condition of the range at the time. It also noted that the owner appeared to be following the state law that addresses recreational shooting in a residential area. Hernando County Code Enforcement said the owner wasn't in violation as far as land use. Neighbors said another issue is that the range points in the direction of their homes. Misty Cintron said about 240 feet of woods separated the range from her home -- too close for comfort. The property owner said he offered to turn the range slightly, but that neighbors didn't like that idea, either. "No crime has happened, no law has been broken, but we still feel we are in dire peril," said neighbors. Neighbors have spoken with State Rep. Blaise Ingoglia about the issue, as well as the sheriff's office. They've been told that there's nothing that can be done since the owner isn't in violation of laws or codes. https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2019/11/22/weeki-wachee-private-gun-rangeFlorida Man Frightens Neighbors by Building Backyard Gun Range In a Friday report, neighbor Misty Cintron told WFTS that her family began to fear for their safety two weeks ago when they noticed their neighbor building a gun range near their home in rural Weeki Wachi, Florida.............................. ...........Florida law allows homeowners to build and use a shooting range as long as their land extends beyond an acre. Cintron's property is less than an acre, so shooting a weapon from her property would be illegal. However, her neighbor is legally allowed to build the range and fire weapons because he is on a larger piece of land.......................... ..........................."The fact that he can shoot at me, and I can't shoot at him is not equal protection," said Cintron to the outlet. "The fact that there is not a clear distance, and he is shooting military-grade weapons that are not accessible to the average person in Florida, that's not equal protection. My local enforcement is not able to fully protect me, so they are violating my right my civil rights." The man claims the range poses no threat to his neighbors. Cintron disagrees, and suggests that bullets and shrapnel could easily make it onto her property....................... .............The range owner, who is said to be a legally licensed commercial gun dealer, claims he plans to make improvements to the barrier. The man claims that he offered to move it "slightly to the right." "Safety, safety, safety, is my top priority," the man told WFTS. "I'm not even close to being done yet." https://www.newsweek.com/florida-man-frightens-neighbors-building-backyard-gun-range-1473652Florida Couple Flips Out Over Neighbor’s Backyard Range One couple in Florida are learning this the hard way, after a neighbor began building a 100-yard range on his property behind their house in Weeki Wachee. Cintron and her husband Jason said they built a home in the rural community for a better life. A few weeks ago, they noticed a large clearing behind their house. “The fact that he can shoot at me, and I can’t shoot at him is not equal protection. The fact that there is not a clear distance, and he is shooting military-grade weapons that are not accessible to the average person in Florida, that’s not equal protection. My local enforcement is not able to fully protect me, so they are violating my right my civil rights.”First of all, Cintron’s neighbor isn’t going to be shooting “at her.” He says the backstop is going to be 45 feet high, which will be more than enough to prevent any bullet from going anywhere near Cintron’s home. I don’t even know what she means when she says he’s shooting “military grade weapons” that the average civilian can’t get their hands on, but the gentleman in question told WFTS-TV in Florida most of his shooting will be using handguns. Cintron said the county informed her Thursday night the county found no code or statutory violations with the building of the gun range.
The builder told us he plans to finish the home and range in the next 10 months. He invited us out to shoot and verify for ourselves how safe it was.
Cintron said he invited her too. She isn’t taking him up on that offer.
“My daughter is going to be fully prepared to at my death to take on the state that they failed me,” Cintron said.Before I go any further, let me say that I am somewhat sympathetic to Cintron and her husband. When they moved in, they were expecting a quiet rural place. Now a guy’s building his personal gun range with a firing line about 175 yards from their house. Their life will undoubtably change once this guy moves in and starts shooting, and they’re probably going to be miserable. That sucks, and if I hated the sound of gun fire and didn’t want my neighbor to have a backyard range that backed up to my property, I’d probably be looking for another place I could move into within the next ten months. However, the homeowner’s not doing anything against the law. He’s within his rights to have a range on his property, and Cintron is not, because her parcel of land isn’t big enough. He’s building his range safely, and there’ve been no code violations. More importantly, if this guy really wanted to hurt Cintron, as she seems to believe is the case, I don’t think he’d go through all the trouble of building a range in his backyard, and then try to fake an accidental and negligent shooting. I’m guessing this guy is exactly what he told Cintron he was; a dude who’s excited and happy about having a place on his property where he can go shoot safely. I totally get it; it’s a wonderful feeling. In fact, just thinking about it makes me want to cut this piece short and head down to my shooting spot, but I will force myself to push through and reward myself with a quick trip to empty a few magazines as soon as this gets posted. Should he have moved the range to make the couple happy, even if that meant shortening the range to 75 yards? I don’t think I would have, because if I were this guy, I wouldn’t be convinced that the move would ultimately satisfy the Cintrons. This couple went to the local news station hoping for sympathy because they have no legal recourse. While I don’t think Cintron’s in any danger from her neighbor’s backyard range, at least based on what I’ve seen, she will be hearing gunshots on a regular basis, and from not too far away. Her neighbor is doing his due diligence to ensure the range is safe, but I don’t know what he’ll be able to do about the sound short of using suppressors. You just know as soon as that range starts getting used the local TV station’s getting another call. https://bearingarms.com/cam-e/2019/11/23/florida-couple-flips-out-over-neighbors-backyard-range/Well Sparky at least I'm not a keyboard warrior hiding behind a fake name. For the record I also only interviewed with Fox News and ABC the other news stories didn't interview me at all. I do love how the owner said back in October though he was going to do all these things to make it safe and guess what??? Yep, wait for it..... he hasn't done a single one, you know public records can show whether a permit was pulled to built that 45 ft wall that doesn't exist that he told the media he was building as well if your IQ was over 2 and you knew how to do anything other than Google my name . The pictures someone one else posted that were taken just in February also show no 45 ft wall either all lies and we already discussed the sheriff dept deputies are not qualified to access whether a range is properly constructed, our attorney already pointed that out as well that they have no certifications or qualifications to make that call and their attorney advised that portion should not have been in the report, it was that deputy's personal opinion not that of the Sheriff Dept legal( cause God knows they want to cover their ass after that remark too if something happens they don't want to be the ones pinned that they signed off on it). Again I'm only one of several houses out here who retained the same attorney and reached out to the State legislative but carry on you little keyboard warrior with your brave aka sparky fake name, you're such a big brave guy hiding behind that fake name and keyboard you remind me of a chihuahua a neighbor once had  I'm done debating with you, I was told you can teach others but you can't fix ignorance and your character has showed that you are just a low class, ignorant, sexist, keyboard warrior so pound away on your response to this one because I won't bite back, you're not worthy or capable of having an intelligent let alone civilized conversation, you're "that guy" ... There were several valid points on this thread some of which I will take with me and ponder but none of them were yours so trust me when you type all I hear is blah blah blahhhhh cause as I told you several pages ago until you are ready to stand down range on my property line and allow them to shoot at you with the same hole in the ground berm and no upper back stop then you're just a squawking bird, a little finch among crows and I guess that makes me the Hawk because I don't hide behind a fake name, a keyboard or ignorance. I am the one who is 240 ft down range being shot towards with no upper berm and hearing the blast. I am one of the several houses out here who put my money where my mouth was and lawyer-ed up . I came on here to give our ( the several homes out here not just mine) view, some were able to see some valid points and take away and then there were ones like you who went totally off the rail and looked up my pictures from my personal social media pages and consider swimwear soft porn ( apparently you've never been to a Florida beach ) you couldn't keep to the topic you had to keep straying and just making it personal attacks on me which just shows your character not mine. It just shows you cannot have a reasonable conversation so any reply you make will be overlooked moving forward...
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I read all that [bleep].
For entertainment.
I need to get a life.
Misty is bitchin'
The neighbor is legal, but wrong.
Some guys just cant help but try to get next to pussy.
Hell, I didn't learn anything, and the best part was some ok
pics. No more comment on them.
PS. In retrospect, I was wrong.
Antelope Sniper's range report and recommendations were quite
a bit better than the pics.
Photo's are cheap and easy.
Well written tongue-in-cheek humor is harder to come by.
PPS. For some reason, spell check changed harder to Havre.
His influence must be greater than I imagined!
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Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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This is a classic scenario regardless of a gun range. Homeowner ‘A’ buys a rural property an acre or two in size. They assume the current land use of their neighbors (or lack thereof) will remain the same. The surrounding land use changes or develops and homeowner ‘A’ get pissy. Buy a bigger piece of land next time.sorry wrong we looked into our lot before we bought and the land beside us is not zoned for rifle or sport shooting range, HE should've bought a lot that was larger and not up against one of the most desired residential neighborhoods in our county where several homes would take action against him for it. We have private ranges on some of the other out skirt areas as well, no one is suing them or complaining about them,, you know why.. because they were smart enough to aim their berms away from homes rather than our guy who pointed it in the one direction of his property that faces everyone's homes out here. We asked him to turn it in the beginning and he chose not to, As for women voting, you and Aka Sparky should get together you are clearly intimidated by a woman who probably makes more than you and clearly has much more intelligence than you with a comment like that
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But, But, But my lawyer told me..........
Geez, your lawyer is billing you to tell you what you want to hear.
Trust me, most of what you type is just blah blah blah. Nonsensical rantings of a drama queen woman who is used to getting her way.
You have everyone's attention now, darlin. Everyone is looking at you. That's all you really want. Go ahead and put on a show.
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Wait a minute- - - - -if she puts on a show, do we have to tuck dollar bills into her G-string?
Ignorance can be fixed. Stupid is forever!
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Is this woman real or is she somebody's sockpuppet?
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Is this woman real or is she somebody's sockpuppet? Back under your rock, toad. This is the adult forum (or used to be).
Don't blame me. I voted for Trump.
Democrats would burn this country to the ground, if they could rule over the ashes.
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Makes you wonder about all the other potential ranges that may pop up in the area in future.
We had the other problem with suburbia creeping into the area of a long established range - safety complaints were unfounded so mainly complaints about noise now. Moron house buyers obviously didn't hear the gun fire during the inspections. We were here first and are winning the battle - they've been whinging for a long time now but seem to be able to cry themselves to sleep at night okay.
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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Is this woman real or is she somebody's sockpuppet? I think she's the real Misty. Probably found us on a Google search and decided to join to give her opinion on the issue.
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
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