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As expected from both sides

lol

I doubt it.
Just like the Rodney King mess, the state won't be able to do it, but like the George Gwaltney case if the fed steps in things will be different

The full (no longer preliminary) Hennepin County Medical Examiner Office's (HCME) report was released today, saying the cause of death was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/bringm...ases-new-cause-of-death-for-george-floyd

Guess that is the determination his supporters paid for

You are speaking about the first "autopsy," of course.

Or it could be as simple as Baden is telling the truth. Sometimes the truth doesn’t fit the narrative of the fire Clan


And If 85 signals mental decline, the fire is in big trouble that’s 2/3 of the fire faithful .

LMAO

He's was a Med Examiner for the OJ Simpson Dream Team. Rotten to the core.

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Still doesn't change the fact that cop killed that guy. Anyone that watches that video from beginning to end and doesn't come up with that conclusion is f'ing delusional. Its almost comical the level of blinders some guys have on here haha. In no way shape or form do i endorse ANY of this BS going on in these cities but 100000% that cop killed that man. "Well you don't deal with those animals all day like he did". Quit then. If you cant mentally handle yourself in a job its time to move on.

I think you're on to something. I think cops all across the country should quit. Just say [bleep] it and leave the chit just the way it is. You deal with it.

My personal experience with expert medical witnesses echoes what has been insinuated by others here and that is they will "say" or "find" what they are being paid to "say" or "find", not necessarily teasing out the truth. It becomes all about the $ like so many other things in life, not so much about truth, professionalism, and integrity.

I was involved in a case 20+ years ago that ended up as part of a lawsuit, first against me, but soon involved all of the physicians involved in the patient's care. The finger pointing began and soon there were depositions and expert witnesses everywhere. To make a long story short, my attorney insisted that I fly back east to Washington DC to be present for an expert witness deposition (from my specialty for the plaintiff) just so I could protect my interests, look the "expert" in the eye during testimony, and help guide my attorneys questions for the "expert." She felt like it was helpful and made the "expert" think a liitle more before he spoke for the record in front of his peer! All I know is that I have never really cared about going back to DC again! It was just a "game of chess" for them; much more than that for me!!!

The problem here is much more than a potential lawsuit and $ figure for the family of the deceased, attorneys, and "experts." This about the health of the Country, the integrity and strength of the law, and the future of not just race relations but relationships between generations of Americans as well.

There are bad actors in all societal groups in general, the wealthy, the poor, black, white, purple, politicians, LEOs, attorneys, physicians, etc.

If we are at a point however where the "bad" now rival or outnumber the "good" then our personal experience with the "experiment" of an acknowledged "imperfect" free civil democracy may soon be another footnote in the annals of human history.

Look for the “new normal “ of just stand by and then fill out the report.

say what you want, but this was a no-brainer

Baden is on Hannity now...this conclusion was like falling off a log

Anyone read the link???
Fentanyl and methamphetamine in him .

Per that link......

4 cops shoulda still have been able to get a cuffed groid to booking and let them deal with him....

Instead
Anarchy reins in schit hole Liberal Socialist Democrat cities.

Cause for some reason 4 cops couldnt " handle" a cuffed groid.
Gave him the horizontal heave ho into a squad car back seat in a expedituos manner.
And he kicked the bucket all recorded on a smart phone for the world to see....

JFC.....
What steaming pile of schit from it all........

I think it will be enough. They arrested him. They handcuffed him. They placed him in the back of a squad car. They forcibly removed him from from the squad car. They placed him face down on the pavement. One man placed his knee and what appeared to be all his weight on his neck. Another man placed both his knees on his back and all his weight. The restrained Floyd was obviously incapacitated to some degree apparently from drugs, alcohol or perhaps both. The officers had a due care obligation to do no more harm than was absolutely necessary to subdue Floyd. With Floyd at no point in any of the video(s) showing any significant degree of resistance, AND with the officers continuing to keep their weight on their respective positions until nearly 3 minutes after Floyd became unconscious, I think they will be very lucky to avoid conviction. It will be hard to not come to the conclusion that the officers did not let up until Floyd was well and truly dead to their satisfaction. Not only did Floyd not offer any observed significant resistance, but he did appear to be sufficiently impaired so as to be largely incapable of offering much if any resistance.

I think this will be an uphill fight for the defense attorneys to keep their clients out of jail. Those videos will make it very hard to dispute the above facts. The best hope they have is that Floyd started kicking the hell out of the back seat of the squad car and that they had to remove him to put a stop to that. In which case that squad car should show some pretty significant damage, and they have that as evidence of that necessity. What we do not know is what the witnesses will describe about Floyd's and the officers actions.

That is one point that is hard to get past. Floyd became unresponsive, and still the cops retained the pressure on his neck for 3 minutes more.
For all they knew, at the point at which he became unresponsive, his heart had stopped.

I am an old paramedic and it makes my skin crawl to see a patient restrained when he is obviously unconscious.

I wouldn't say the cops killed Mr. Floyd and I sure don't believe they intended to kill him. But I do believe nobody should make a 20 to 30 year career out of being a policeman. No way it can be done without some serious effects, mostly mental. You can't do it without emotionally detaching yourself as concerns empathy for human suffering. At most I would say a 5 to 7 year hitch and then move on to something else. Maybe we could have something like a national police training, send the graduates out to local departments, and then a G.I. Bill type transition to something else.

All of our counties and cities populated and enforced by Fed Cops? I can't see anything going wrong with that. Sarcasm off.