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Floyd may have been using his last breath when he said "I can't breath" . I don't know why I should have to say this but it keeps coming up. If you've ever been around people in distress who have cardiovascular or respiratory disease "I can't breath" translate into "My body isn't getting sufficient oxygen" and indicates a critical situation requiring emergency attention. A guy may be faking but is it worth risking his life to non bother taking precautions and getting him checked out by an EMT?
The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh
Which explains a lot.
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Floyd may have been using his last breath when he said "I can't breath" . I don't know why I should have to say this but it keeps coming up/ If you've ever been around people in distress who have cardiovascular or respiratory disease "I can't breath" translate into "My body isn't getting sufficient oxygen" and indicates a critical situation requiring emergency attention. That's right, they are having trouble breathing, they are running out of breath. They are on their last gasp.
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I just posted this https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...t-breathe-case-in-tacoma-wa#Post14940029I did the neck experiment with my wife putting most of her wt. on my neck the same way Chavin did on Floyd. I didn't die, not even close, no problem breathing, blood flow just fine. The video very clearly showed Chauvin controlling the amount of pressure he put on Floyds' neck. He wasn't smashing Floyds' head into the ground like some want to think. Amazing proof! Indeed, George Floyd isn't even dead apparently. Who knew, besides the exspurts here on 24hrfascism? If 24hcf members were the fascists you claim, you and your ilk would've been deep 6'ed years ago. Fortunately for spineless wonders like you, we're the tolerant ones. Naw, you are way too cowardly to go so unConstitutional and murder me. But I do realize that you are obsessed with such fantasies. I love when you go "ilky" like that. Always good for a laugh on you. A mystery why you post here. You provide no contributions of any worth and your attacks contain so little substance a sixth grader would die of boredom. Your attempts at debate on any issue are so devoid of facts one comes to the conclusion you either have little if any mental capacity or your emotional stability is seriously questionable. This place is all you have to give you self worth ....a sad excuse for a human. You perfectly described a liberal.haha, she-Roy
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"That's right, they are having trouble breathing, they are running out of breath. They are on their last gasp."
Not necessarily. Ever see a person in congestive heart failure? They can struggle to take a breath long before their O2 falls to deadly levels. With prompt medical attention by the next day it can be like it never happened.
The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh
Which explains a lot.
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The old neighbor had multiple by-pass surgery and always complained of difficulty breathing Post Op.
Asthmatics vary in their difficulty breathing. I've seen it get very bad very fast resulting in death.
Bad asthma with a weak heart is not a good combination... [one can die from heart failure in the stressful course of an asthma attack]
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"That's right, they are having trouble breathing, they are running out of breath. They are on their last gasp."
Not necessarily. Ever see a person in congestive heart failure? They can struggle to take a breath long before their O2 falls to deadly levels. With prompt medical attention by the next day it can be like it never happened. The autopsy said that he died of asfixciation, a combination of the pressure on his neck and back by other officers. Whatever happened, he was clearly in distress. At which point the reasonable action would have been to take the pressure off him and check his condition. They did not do that. They messed up badly.
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And since they buried him today is he gonna be pissed when he wakes up.
The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh
Which explains a lot.
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Damn. That pig Fugger cop kept his knee on the piece of chit's neck for 2 minutes 40 seconds after one of the other pig Fuggers told him there was no pulse. Geebus, get a clue man. Can't have some damned good samaritan start compressions and bring a POS back to life. Not after you, in your role as a uniformed officer, have sentenced said POS to death.
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Floyd may have been using his last breath when he said "I can't breath" . I don't know why I should have to say this but it keeps coming up. If you've ever been around people in distress who have cardiovascular or respiratory disease "I can't breath" translate into "My body isn't getting sufficient oxygen" and indicates a critical situation requiring emergency attention. A guy may be faking but is it worth risking his life to non bother taking precautions and getting him checked out by an EMT? They did get him checked out by EMT though
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It would seem that the health factors would provide a competent defense attorney a lot of fertile ground to sow the seeds of “reasonable doubt”. However you may feel about it, it’s going to make a conviction harder - that can be seen in this discussion. I don't see that. When the "angel of mercy" nurse gives the cancer Px an extra dose of morphine and kills her when she was expected to live less than a week, the nurse still goes away for murder. If a perp has health conditions including COPD, and arresting officers restrict his breathing via positional asphyxiation until the perp expires. It is still murder. I have said it before. I think the weight on the perp's shoulders and stomach made it impossible for him to inflate his lungs. That is much more likely to be the cause of death than the pressure on his neck.
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Lets see... Floyd had Meth and Fentynal in his blood stream... along with alcohol...
Plus had high blood pressure and Cardiac Disease...
and also his cadaver was tested positive for Covid 19....
all of that, even individually, would make it difficult for an overweight man to breathe....
but yet with all of that, because its politically convenient for Officer's Chauvin's knee to be the cause of death for George Floyd...
Personally I think Officer Chauvin is being used as a scapegoat, for practices the Minneapolis PD has been known for, for decades....they are not guilty of racism necessarily, as they are typically Nazis on anyone... That's very possible, but the actions of the Mini Apple-less Schutzstaffel didn't help matters either. A knee on the neck is not accepted training doctrine.
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Look at any press story. And why the hell else wouls the cop be kneeling on his necl for so long, praying for his redemption? If you can;t otherwise control a cuffed prisoner you should never have been certified. Bought any riot guns from the military lately , Dips.hit?
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Shoulda just lassoed his azz and drug him down the block for a bit. That's teach the rest of 'em.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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This is some far fetched s.hit being spewed here now. At first , it was Chauvin’s knee on the neck that “murdered “ him. Now, the other officers placed so much of their weight on his upper torso that he physically couldn’t use his lungs to breathe. They are the stupidest cops in the USA if they did that. I highly doubt it however.
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Damn. That pig Fugger cop kept his knee on the piece of chit's neck for 2 minutes 40 seconds after one of the other pig Fuggers told him there was no pulse. Geebus, get a clue man. Can't have some damned good samaritan start compressions and bring a POS back to life. Not after you, in your role as a uniformed officer, have sentenced said POS to death. They should capped the folks who had the video rolling! That'd been smarter than just high fives and handjobs.
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And if the Media is showing the video (s) it is highly suspect.
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The old neighbor had multiple by-pass surgery and always complained of difficulty breathing Post Op.
Asthmatics vary in their difficulty breathing. I've seen it get very bad very fast resulting in death.
Bad asthma with a weak heart is not a good combination... [one can die from heart failure in the stressful course of an asthma attack] “Paging Old Neighbor “ “Old Neighbor” . A great source for internet statements about medicine.
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This is some far fetched s.hit being spewed here now.... . Now, the other officers placed so much of their weight on his upper torso that he physically couldn’t use his lungs to breathe... Obesity causes respiratory difficulty by pushing on the diaphragm and chest wall, how good would the intense compressive weight of some cops on ones torso be for someone?
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