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Consider the meaning of sophistry. I have no desire to waste my time by addressing fallacious questions. Plenty of better ways to waste my time.
The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh
Which explains a lot.
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There is no deception in my questions,
they are straight forward-direct to the point.
Your bullschit doesn't fly.
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And of course falsely uses "theory" as a synonym for "fact," a common ploy. Like the ‘theory of gravity’ or the ‘theory of orbital mechanics’ or the ‘theory of nuclear fission’. I suspect that some folks like to misrepresent the nature of theory in science in order to support their own faith. Seems a pretty weak faith if one feels the need to intentionally misrepresent the nature of theory in science in order to support their faith. As faith is a belief held without the support of evidence it is a position that needs constant reinforcement, church, fellowship, reading selected material, etc. So if someone questions the faith, they are a threat to the faith. Nope, not so at all. Your comment is clearly referring to Faith as applied in Christianity. Yet you avoid the biblical definition of faith and discount then source of that faith.. all because you have not experienced it. Hebrews 11:1..... “.... faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see....” This biblical definition is clearly different from what you wrote. And, no, you are not a threat to my faith.
The tax collector said: “Lord Jesus, have mercy on me, a sinner.” Jesus said he went home “justified.”
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Starman,
Your questions are deceptive in that they are intended to act as rhetorical devices and not to elicit a meaningful response. Much like the Sophists back in the day.
The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh
Which explains a lot.
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Your questions are deceptive in that they are intended to act as rhetorical devices and not to elicit a meaningful response. Much like the Sophists back in the day. You lost and your dumbass pride can't concede that you screwed up.. TFF. trying to talk all mr. sophisticated like won't help... You layed the minefield with your waffle And now you dont like walking it.
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The RELIGION of Evol-utionism... Evolution is not a religion. Neither is gravity, or nuclear fission, or orbital mechanics.
Every day on this side of the ground is a win.
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As faith is a belief held without the support of evidence it is a position that needs constant reinforcement, church, fellowship, reading selected material, etc. So if someone questions the faith, they are a threat to the faith. Maybe to some. Absolutely not to all.
Every day on this side of the ground is a win.
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I thought you folks hashed this all out a few month back.
Big thread, many pages.
Can't remember who won. Evidence wins every time. The evidence proves evolution. Oh? I'm pretty sure there will be more than one arguing against that point. There is no argument against the reality of evolution, only protest.
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As faith is a belief held without the support of evidence it is a position that needs constant reinforcement, church, fellowship, reading selected material, etc. So if someone questions the faith, they are a threat to the faith. Maybe to some. Absolutely not to all. Why not? How can evidence that clearly supports natural evolution not be a threat to faith/special creation? Unless that evidence is dismissed or ignored. That is one way to maintain faith.
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You can test the most devout christians faith
by asking them if they reach for Glock or begin
by praying to a God if they have a home invasion.
or give them choice of foxhole or concrete bunker
when it's raining proximity fuse artillery.
Heart attack - medical science paramedics..or just
call for much needed prayers from your church friends
cause it will fix everything...
Lots of dead church people, but how many actually faithfully living through Christ.
Talk and just keeping empty appearances is cheap.
People telling themselves they know they have made
the cut into a heaven.... hilarious.
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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And of course falsely uses "theory" as a synonym for "fact," a common ploy. Like the ‘theory of gravity’ or the ‘theory of orbital mechanics’ or the ‘theory of nuclear fission’. I suspect that some folks like to misrepresent the nature of theory in science in order to support their own faith. Seems a pretty weak faith if one feels the need to intentionally misrepresent the nature of theory in science in order to support their faith. As faith is a belief held without the support of evidence it is a position that needs constant reinforcement, church, fellowship, reading selected material, etc. So if someone questions the faith, they are a threat to the faith. Nope, not so at all. Your comment is clearly referring to Faith as applied in Christianity. Yet you avoid the biblical definition of faith and discount then source of that faith.. all because you have not experienced it. Hebrews 11:1..... “.... faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see....” This biblical definition is clearly different from what you wrote. And, no, you are not a threat to my faith. Hebrew 11:1 supports what I said.
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Thankfully the end of the world preaching is out of favour, and believers go quiet when it gets real - busy praying I suppose. In days gone they used to rage that the world was ending whenever some disaster or calamity struck, only to look like complete tossers afterwards. This has happened for thousands of years and they were never right - faith, whata ya gone a do about it?
Now that things are somewhat more settled, the believers start popping out of the woodwork and can continue with their moderate levels of fear of death. Seems anger is a good substitute for hopelessness - gives drive and purpose. Hey, lets start slinging crap at the infidels again and continue with our feel good fairy tales.
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Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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What do you have when an old drunken racist starts preaching god and the bible?
A hysterical fugging hypocrite that hunts sharks in the desert!
Go drink another handle you crazy old kook!
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I see the beauty of the Creator and creation every single day. The beauty of evolution , not so much. I also believe discussing it can be a huge waste of time , but it can get kind of entertaining at happy hour!
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Creation is an idea. Evolution a reality.
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I thought you folks hashed this all out a few month back.
Big thread, many pages.
Can't remember who won. Who won???? The people who didnt post in it of course!!!! And Bin with hit and veiw #,s LOL!!!
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lets just take one thing from the bible
Noah and the ark. so this guy gathers up a pair of all the animals on earth and loads them on a giant ship(do you really know how big that ship had to be?)
it would have taken years to build it,years to figure out how to get all the animals there, so maybe he waited til the water started to rise and floated the world and all the animals were so scared they just jumped on the ship. yeah right.
to me its like a cartoon and half the world believes it.
biggest scam in the history of the world
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And he let ticks and chiggers on board too.
Cause some animals and birds and schit eat em.
Thanks Noah!!!!
You made turkey season kinda sucky, but at least the bug dope companies benefit from it!!!
LOL!!!
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Your questions are deceptive in that they are intended to act as rhetorical devices and not to elicit a meaningful response. Much like the Sophists back in the day. You lost and your dumbass pride can't concede that you screwed up.. TFF. trying to talk all mr. sophisticated like won't help... You layed the minefield with your waffle And now you dont like walking it. See, there's your problem. Your posts are not a search for truth. Merely some kind of weird game intended to stroke your ego. Believe what you want, I couldn't care less,
The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh
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