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I'm all for it. But there's a decent chance that it's going to be violent.
Are they ready to meet a violent response? The violence is coming whether you like it or not. If you want to win, you best embrace it. It's not about what I personally think about it although it wouldn't bother me a bit if somebody went in and shut that mess down. The point I was making is,..some of those antifa knotheads are armed with ARs. Those people planning on going in need to be aware that there's a potential for violence. I just asked if they're ready to meet what they find if it comes to that. Many, maybe most of those antifa people are just wannabees. They're just there to be one of the "cool kids". But some of them are fairly serious Communist zealots. They can be dangerous. A big rally of a thousand people walking into that stuff could turn into a mess. I agree 100%.
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First thing that needs doing is hitting MSM, the press, and their cohorts in selective social media propaganda. THEY are the Rights biggest stumbling block. Lenin knew the power of media and cinema. 99.9% of the public see their vitrol and believe it. The right has no real media voice. We need a big Radio Free America. To coin a phrase. An alternative that isn’t only on pay for cable TV or the internet.
JMHO
EDIT. Is Voice of America still around?
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Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
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I support CHAZ.
They make it glaringly obvious that liberals want a divorce from conservatives. I want a divorce from liberals. I say let's sign the papers and divide things up. This is what SHOULD have happened instead of the Civil War. Having liberals instigate the divorce is the only way we'll get one without a war.
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been thinking about this, if it comes here... i won't be peaceful. my kids are grown. Roger, I hear you. I've worked like a "slave" for nigh on 50 yrs to build what I've got for myself and my family. Peaceful does not at all describe what they'll force me to become if someone tries to burn it down in front of me...
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
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I'm all for it. But there's a decent chance that it's going to be violent.
Are they ready to meet a violent response? The violence is coming whether you like it or not. If you want to win, you best embrace it. It's not about what I personally think about it although it wouldn't bother me a bit if somebody went in and shut that mess down. The point I was making is,..some of those antifa knotheads are armed with ARs. Those people planning on going in need to be aware that there's a potential for violence. I just asked if they're ready to meet what they find if it comes to that. Many, maybe most of those antifa people are just wannabees. They're just there to be one of the "cool kids". But some of them are fairly serious Communist zealots. They can be dangerous. A big rally of a thousand people walking into that stuff could turn into a mess. I agree 100%. Bristoe, Have you ever even what a biker war looks like? They ain't going there to place flowers.
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
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I support CHAZ.
They make it glaringly obvious that liberals want a divorce from conservatives. I want a divorce from liberals. I say let's sign the papers and divide things up. This is what SHOULD have happened instead of the Civil War. Having liberals instigate the divorce is the only way we'll get one without a war. Unfortunately, they would not be satisfied with a division of power. They advocate the destruction of the government of the US of A and the installation of a socialist govt. This would call for the other means. Remember your Von Clausewitz. IN actuality they are advocating a true "civil war". The 1861-65 affair wasn’t a true civil war by definition.
Founder
Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
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Who triggered all these communist deep cover plants?
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Who are the idiots who follow them??
-OMotS
"If memory serves fails me..."
Quote: ( unnamed) "been prtty deep in the cooler todaay "
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First thing that needs doing is hitting MSM, the press, and their cohorts in selective social media propaganda. THEY are the Rights biggest stumbling block. Lenin knew the power of media and cinema. 99.9% of the public see their vitrol and believe it. The right has no real media voice. We need a big Radio Free America. To coin a phrase. An alternative that isn’t only on pay for cable TV or the internet.
JMHO
EDIT. Is Voice of America still around? In other words, get rid of private media and replace it with .gov approved media. Like China, like Russia, like North Korea. Sounds good. You go girl.
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I don't know about you fellers, but I gotta damn job and these pukes on the left don't. I gotta family and responsibilities. These pukes don't. THIS would be my concern. There are people with homes and businesses locked inside the CHAZ zone that are being "shook down" for protection money (extortion) and being being carded / ID'ed / Searched at will, having their cell phones confiscated by the "peace keepers". In violation of their Fourth Amendment rights. What happens when someone inside the zone says "Bugger off." and starts using deadly force against Antifa ? You don’t really believe that do you. These people voted for the mayor, the governor and their ideology. Both support this action, as do the people inside the compound. They voted for it, accept it and embrace it. The white people inside the compound are now handing out $10 bills to black people to show their solidarity and love. This is Seattle for f*cks sake, this is their mindset.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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"..On July 4th, Independence Day, a coalition of patriot groups and all who want to join are going to retake the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone for America. Antifa members are illegally occupying public property and terrorizing small businesses in the neighborhood. American patriots have agreed to come together again, remove the barricades illegally obstructing traffic, and free the people in the zone.
You do not need a bike to join. Any and all patriots with all vehicles are coming to this event.
We are not going to hurt anybody, break the law etc. We are simply going to tear down the illegal barriers on public property, clean up the mess these communist kids made, and return the police station over to Seattle Police Department control."
"The event also claims that the Oathkeepers, an American group of former military and law enforcement officials who pledge to uphold their oath to the U.S. Constitution, will be part of their expedition."
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First thing that needs doing is hitting MSM, the press, and their cohorts in selective social media propaganda. THEY are the Rights biggest stumbling block. Lenin knew the power of media and cinema. 99.9% of the public see their vitrol and believe it. The right has no real media voice. We need a big Radio Free America. To coin a phrase. An alternative that isn’t only on pay for cable TV or the internet.
JMHO
EDIT. Is Voice of America still around? In other words, get rid of private media and replace it with .gov approved media. Like China, like Russia, like North Korea. Sounds good. You go girl. Not at all Mr. Bean. Just offer a truely conservative alternative. You don’t admit that the playing field is a bit one sided??
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Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
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Unfortunately, they would not be satisfied with a division of power. They advocate the destruction of the government of the US of A and the installation of a socialist govt. This would call for the other means. Remember your Von Clausewitz.
IN actuality they are advocating a true "civil war". The 1861-65 affair wasn’t a true civil war by definition. I want a geographical division. If war comes once that is set up, so be it. But you'll never get the proper sort of division without it. The type of war they are fighting in Mexico is NOT what we should want. Let them have ground in which they can be contained or, if desired, destroyed.
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The idea that "the press" can lie to the people to cause damage to those that are innocent is simply not based in law. The same basis is the reason for the laws making you liable for yelling "fire" in a crowd when there is no fire and you KNOW there is no fire.
Freedom of the press and freedom of speech do NOT go to a point you can deprive others of their rights, intentionally cause harm, or cause danger for personal gain. Same with the 2nd amendment and the 4th amendments
Sure, you can keep and bear arms but you can't shoot people and destroy property with a gun without lawful cause.
You have the right to privacy, but not so much that you can intentionally hide a meth lab.
The freedom enjoyed by the press is not so broad as to allow legal protection for the guilty. It doesn't protect those why knowingly lie and promote an agenda by using lies..
Yet we have never seen that type of treason punished.
We should and it may be coming..................one way or another.,
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Unfortunately, they would not be satisfied with a division of power. They advocate the destruction of the government of the US of A and the installation of a socialist govt. This would call for the other means. Remember your Von Clausewitz.
IN actuality they are advocating a true "civil war". The 1861-65 affair wasn’t a true civil war by definition. I want a geographical division. If war comes once that is set up, so be it. But you'll never get the proper sort of division without it. The type of war they are fighting in Mexico is NOT what we should want. Let them have ground in which they can be contained or, if desired, destroyed. Perhaps, But I would still feel that territorial appeasement would be one of the cracks in the foundation that their side would be relishing!
Founder
Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
WS
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We're a bunch of pussy's wanting the bikers to our dirty work. Sad truth is that by working and paying taxes we have created this mess. A civil war is the only way out of this mess. If the taxpayers would refuse to pay, causing the freeloaders and deadbeats to seek food, water and shelter this mess would be over in a matter of weeks. Going in and hurting people will just cost the taxpayers more money and not fix anything. We need a permanent solution to this problem and that's a bullet behind the ear. IMO
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The idea that "the press" can lie to the people to cause damage to those that are innocent is simply not based in law. The same basis is the reason for the laws making you liable for yelling "fire" in a crowd when there is no fire and you KNOW there is no fire.
Freedom of the press and freedom of speech do NOT go to a point you can deprive others of their rights, intentionally cause harm, or cause danger for personal gain. Same with the 2nd amendment and the 4th amendments
Sure, you can keep and bear arms but you can't shoot people and destroy property with a gun without lawful cause.
You have the right to privacy, but not so much that you can intentionally hide a meth lab.
The freedom enjoyed by the press is not so broad as to allow legal protection for the guilty. It doesn't protect those why knowingly lie and promote an agenda by using lies..
Yet we have never seen that type of treason punished.
We should and it may be coming..................one way or another., Deliberate lying should put media at risk, yet Fox and Breitbart publishes without any regard to reality other than the reality of their wet dreams.
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We're a bunch of pussy's wanting the bikers to our dirty work. Sad truth is that by working and paying taxes we have created this mess. A civil war is the only way out of this mess. If the taxpayers would refuse to pay, causing the freeloaders and deadbeats to seek food, water and shelter this mess would be over in a matter of weeks. Going in and hurting people will just cost the taxpayers more money and not fix anything. We need a permanent solution to this problem and that's a bullet behind the ear. IMO I love the way you guys always come down to the solution being to destroy everything that the Constitution and the United States of America stands for. This always ends up being the answer. Fortunately, for the Constitution and the good old USofA, all of you continue to lobby for someone else to do it, as you are too cowardly to begin yourself.
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They don't want to separate from us they want to reign in tyranny over us. Antifa knows they are parasites and know they need a host. Marxists build walls to keep people in while capitalists build walls to keep them out.
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The idea that "the press" can lie to the people to cause damage to those that are innocent is simply not based in law. The same basis is the reason for the laws making you liable for yelling "fire" in a crowd when there is no fire and you KNOW there is no fire.
Freedom of the press and freedom of speech do NOT go to a point you can deprive others of their rights, intentionally cause harm, or cause danger for personal gain. Same with the 2nd amendment and the 4th amendments
Sure, you can keep and bear arms but you can't shoot people and destroy property with a gun without lawful cause.
You have the right to privacy, but not so much that you can intentionally hide a meth lab.
The freedom enjoyed by the press is not so broad as to allow legal protection for the guilty. It doesn't protect those why knowingly lie and promote an agenda by using lies..
Yet we have never seen that type of treason punished.
We should and it may be coming..................one way or another., Deliberate lying should put media at risk, yet Fox and Breitbart publishes without any regard to reality other than the reality of their wet dreams. Are you really that frigging stupid? The left media is always retracting what they've claimed as news. Your fake news.
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I don't know about you fellers, but I gotta damn job and these pukes on the left don't. I gotta family and responsibilities. These pukes don't. THIS would be my concern. There are people with homes and businesses locked inside the CHAZ zone that are being "shook down" for protection money (extortion) and being being carded / ID'ed / Searched at will, having their cell phones confiscated by the "peace keepers". In violation of their Fourth Amendment rights. What happens when someone inside the zone says "Bugger off." and starts using deadly force against Antifa ? You don’t really believe that do you. These people voted for the mayor, the governor and their ideology. Both support this action, as do the people inside the compound. They voted for it, accept it and embrace it. The white people inside the compound are now handing out $10 bills to black people to show their solidarity and love. This is Seattle for f*cks sake, this is their mindset. Everything you say is true. However, I cannot wrap my mind around that "mindset".
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