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Originally Posted by fester
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Originally Posted by Theo Gallus
Which of the 4,972 religions do you believers believe in?

Dude ....
Dont get em any more riled up...

I need ta go feed the rattle snakes.
Makes less active for sunday somewhat...

Cause some nut job read a passage in the KJV back in colonial days.
Who couldn't make a living any other way and started a spinoff church...


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Just like them gold tablets dude "seen" and started the mormon stuff.

Just saying....

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Originally Posted by Ejp1234
Originally Posted by johnn
Originally Posted by Ringman
Originally Posted by johnn
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by johnn
Albert was a pretty smart guy
“The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.”


Yet he couldn't make even one cell, much less the smallest of a human hair.


Dividing cells, life in general is no doubt a amazing miracle, I just dont believe it is due to divine intervention, hard to just blindly accept traditional christian beliefs that are meant to somehow explain what you cant see, smell, hear or physically feel.... yet evolution is clearly evident........


Are you using "yet evolution is clearly evident" meaning from the Big Bang to the present? Other than life exists what evidence is there for abiogenesis?

Do you not find the existence of life rather compelling evidence...?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You win!

HAHAHAHAHAHA


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Originally Posted by Ejp1234
I went to the Painted Desert last year. When in the visitors center by the petrified forest, I started telling everyone how this was all a big hoax, because it didnt fit into the bibles narrative...

God was playing a big joke on us with all that petrified rainforest we were standing, in the middle of Ari freaking zona hahahahahaha


They looked at me just as freaking crazy as I look at all of Jag’s posts hahahaha

Jag aint nuts.
He believes in god.
But he knew this thread would go big.
He has us on strings right now.
LOL!!!

I'm cutting mine
Threads like this go round and round and round.
Its a belief/ opinon thread.

Jag is a jedi master.........

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Originally Posted by TF49
Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by TF49
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by TF49
DBT,

Here is what you said about “faith” ……

As faith is a belief held without the support of evidence it is a position that needs constant reinforcement, church, fellowship, reading selected material, etc. So if someone questions the faith, they are a threat to the faith.”

You clearly state that faith is a belief held without the support of evidence. I then quoted Hebrews 11:1….”“.... faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see....”

Faith like I am describing is not a belief held without the support of evidence. Let me delve into that.

See John 14:23…” Jesus replied, If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.”

Let me repeat…. “…we will make our home with him.”

See also, John 15:3…. “Remain in me and I will remain in you.”


When God is in you, when the Holy Spirit witnesses to your inner being, there is no doubt about it. This is not blind faith at all. It is belief based on a living and active relationship with God Himself.

So, how does this come about? The thief on the cross …. Luke 23…..knew he was a criminal and only a few crucial words are spoken…”Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom. He replied to him, ‘Amen I say to you today you will be with me in Paradise.”


There is another example….Luke 18 ….. the Pharisee prayed but prayed out of pride…. then….the tax collector prayed….”But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’ (Jesus then said…) I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God…..”

So, it is as simple as that…. here it is re-phrased: “Jesus, have mercy on me, a sinner.”

Then, God comes into your inner being and then, YOU KNOW.




Circular reasoning is a logical fallacy, not evidence.



Oh, it is indeed evidence. Not proof for you, but testimony. Testimony. Think about it. Testimony is accepted in courts of law.

It is also an explanation for the origin of faith.

Heard a story once about a man blind from birth who denied the existence of light because he had never seen it, never felt it and he rejected the testimony of the sighted people around him.

Testimony in courts is based on observed events.
To be proved or disproved by facts.
None of us alive today can testify about observed events in biblical times.


I am not referring to biblical times. I am giving testimony as to the source and reality of my faith....here and now, in these times.

God is active today. I testify to that.


Nah dude, thats Jared Leto... he threw me off too...

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Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by fester
Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by Theo Gallus
Which of the 4,972 religions do you believers believe in?

Dude ....
Dont get em any more riled up...

I need ta go feed the rattle snakes.
Makes less active for sunday somewhat...

Cause some nut job read a passage in the KJV back in colonial days.
Who couldn't make a living any other way and started a spinoff church...


😂

Just like them gold tablets dude "seen" and started the mormon stuff.

Just saying....



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A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.

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Originally Posted by johnn
Albert was a pretty smart guy..


I posted all what you see below on a previous thread....

Originally Posted by Starman

January 3, 1954,
Einstein reply to Eric Gutkind:

"The word God is for me nothing but the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of venerable but still rather primitive legends. No interpretation, no matter how subtle, can (for me) change anything about this... For me the Jewish religion like all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions."

March 1954,
Einstein reply to Joe Dispentiere:

" It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."

EINSTEINS book of Ideas and Opinions (1954) stated:

"In their struggle for the ethical good, teachers of religion must have the stature to give up the doctrine of a personal God, that is, give up that source of fear and hope which in the past placed such vast power in the hands of priests."

1950, Einstein letter to M.Berkowitz:

"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment."


April 1929, Einstein cable to Rabbi Herbert S. Goldstein:

"I believe in Spinoza's God {of Philosophy} , who
reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists,
not in a God who concerns himself with the fate
and the doings of mankind."


December 1922 Einstein stated the following on the concept of a savior:

"Denominational traditions I can only consider historically and psychologically; they have no other significance for me."


EINSTEIN to Japanese magazine Kaizō 1923:

"Scientific research can reduce superstition by encouraging people to think and view things in terms of cause and effect. Certain it is that a conviction, akin to religious feeling, of the rationality and intelligibility of the world lies behind all scientific work of a higher order.... This firm belief, a belief bound up with a deep feeling, in a superior mind that reveals itself in the world of experience, represents my conception of God.."






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Originally Posted by TF49
Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by TF49
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by TF49
DBT,

Here is what you said about “faith” ……

As faith is a belief held without the support of evidence it is a position that needs constant reinforcement, church, fellowship, reading selected material, etc. So if someone questions the faith, they are a threat to the faith.”

You clearly state that faith is a belief held without the support of evidence. I then quoted Hebrews 11:1….”“.... faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see....”

Faith like I am describing is not a belief held without the support of evidence. Let me delve into that.

See John 14:23…” Jesus replied, If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.”

Let me repeat…. “…we will make our home with him.”

See also, John 15:3…. “Remain in me and I will remain in you.”


When God is in you, when the Holy Spirit witnesses to your inner being, there is no doubt about it. This is not blind faith at all. It is belief based on a living and active relationship with God Himself.

So, how does this come about? The thief on the cross …. Luke 23…..knew he was a criminal and only a few crucial words are spoken…”Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom. He replied to him, ‘Amen I say to you today you will be with me in Paradise.”


There is another example….Luke 18 ….. the Pharisee prayed but prayed out of pride…. then….the tax collector prayed….”But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’ (Jesus then said…) I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God…..”

So, it is as simple as that…. here it is re-phrased: “Jesus, have mercy on me, a sinner.”

Then, God comes into your inner being and then, YOU KNOW.




Circular reasoning is a logical fallacy, not evidence.



Oh, it is indeed evidence. Not proof for you, but testimony. Testimony. Think about it. Testimony is accepted in courts of law.

It is also an explanation for the origin of faith.

Heard a story once about a man blind from birth who denied the existence of light because he had never seen it, never felt it and he rejected the testimony of the sighted people around him.

Testimony in courts is based on observed events.
To be proved or disproved by facts.
None of us alive today can testify about observed events in biblical times.


I am not referring to biblical times. I am giving testimony as to the source and reality of my faith....here and now, in these times.

God is active today. I testify to that.

Yes you were whether you realize it or not.
You used the court analogy as a basis about faith testimony.
Everything beleived in christianity is based on biblical events in the bible none of us alive today event observed.
Faith testimony .....

Versus observed verifiable one way or the other event testimony in court.

2 different things.

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Originally Posted by TF49
Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by TF49
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by TF49
DBT,

Here is what you said about “faith” ……

As faith is a belief held without the support of evidence it is a position that needs constant reinforcement, church, fellowship, reading selected material, etc. So if someone questions the faith, they are a threat to the faith.”

You clearly state that faith is a belief held without the support of evidence. I then quoted Hebrews 11:1….”“.... faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see....”

Faith like I am describing is not a belief held without the support of evidence. Let me delve into that.

See John 14:23…” Jesus replied, If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.”

Let me repeat…. “…we will make our home with him.”

See also, John 15:3…. “Remain in me and I will remain in you.”


When God is in you, when the Holy Spirit witnesses to your inner being, there is no doubt about it. This is not blind faith at all. It is belief based on a living and active relationship with God Himself.

So, how does this come about? The thief on the cross …. Luke 23…..knew he was a criminal and only a few crucial words are spoken…”Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom. He replied to him, ‘Amen I say to you today you will be with me in Paradise.”


There is another example….Luke 18 ….. the Pharisee prayed but prayed out of pride…. then….the tax collector prayed….”But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’ (Jesus then said…) I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God…..”

So, it is as simple as that…. here it is re-phrased: “Jesus, have mercy on me, a sinner.”

Then, God comes into your inner being and then, YOU KNOW.




Circular reasoning is a logical fallacy, not evidence.



Oh, it is indeed evidence. Not proof for you, but testimony. Testimony. Think about it. Testimony is accepted in courts of law.

It is also an explanation for the origin of faith.

Heard a story once about a man blind from birth who denied the existence of light because he had never seen it, never felt it and he rejected the testimony of the sighted people around him.

Testimony in courts is based on observed events.
To be proved or disproved by facts.
None of us alive today can testify about observed events in biblical times.


I am not referring to biblical times. I am giving testimony as to the source and reality of my faith....here and now, in these times.

God is active today. I testify to that.


Yes, and satan too. BLM, Piglosis satanic pin, Schiefty, Hill n Bill and Zeros acts testify to that.


Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.

A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.

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Originally Posted by jaguartx

Jag......

Ahhhhhhhhhhh.....

Didnt read the link...

Sorry......




BTW

Where in da hell in de fugg is Sandbilly????

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Nothing is real. We're all living in the Matrix. Nothing else explains the insanity of the world.


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Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by TF49
Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by TF49
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by TF49
DBT,

Here is what you said about “faith” ……

As faith is a belief held without the support of evidence it is a position that needs constant reinforcement, church, fellowship, reading selected material, etc. So if someone questions the faith, they are a threat to the faith.”

You clearly state that faith is a belief held without the support of evidence. I then quoted Hebrews 11:1….”“.... faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see....”

Faith like I am describing is not a belief held without the support of evidence. Let me delve into that.

See John 14:23…” Jesus replied, If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.”

Let me repeat…. “…we will make our home with him.”

See also, John 15:3…. “Remain in me and I will remain in you.”


When God is in you, when the Holy Spirit witnesses to your inner being, there is no doubt about it. This is not blind faith at all. It is belief based on a living and active relationship with God Himself.

So, how does this come about? The thief on the cross …. Luke 23…..knew he was a criminal and only a few crucial words are spoken…”Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom. He replied to him, ‘Amen I say to you today you will be with me in Paradise.”


There is another example….Luke 18 ….. the Pharisee prayed but prayed out of pride…. then….the tax collector prayed….”But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’ (Jesus then said…) I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God…..”

So, it is as simple as that…. here it is re-phrased: “Jesus, have mercy on me, a sinner.”

Then, God comes into your inner being and then, YOU KNOW.




Circular reasoning is a logical fallacy, not evidence.



Oh, it is indeed evidence. Not proof for you, but testimony. Testimony. Think about it. Testimony is accepted in courts of law.

It is also an explanation for the origin of faith.

Heard a story once about a man blind from birth who denied the existence of light because he had never seen it, never felt it and he rejected the testimony of the sighted people around him.

Testimony in courts is based on observed events.
To be proved or disproved by facts.
None of us alive today can testify about observed events in biblical times.


I am not referring to biblical times. I am giving testimony as to the source and reality of my faith....here and now, in these times.

God is active today. I testify to that.


Yes, and satan too. BLM, Piglosis satanic pin, Schiefty, Hill n Bill and Zeros acts testify to that.

Evil condones evil.
Thats why evil gets away with schitt....

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Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
Nothing is real. We're all living in the Matrix. Nothing else explains the insanity of the world.







They all multiplyed and became Liberal Socialist Democrats ...
The brown acid effects became generational thru fugged up dna....

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Don’t eat the brown acid 🤣

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Originally Posted by renegade50
Not an unbeliever.
Just dont wanna listen to people tell me how to beleive.
Especially since it involves supporting their sorry azz,s with my money.


Religious money scoopers are just following
the model in Bible.
Jesus gave up carpentry in Nazareth and convinced
others in paying jobs (fisherman, Tax collector].. to join
him in his new ministry in Capernaum.,.. there they
sustained themselves on donations.



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Keep cutting those checks to your preacher boys. Remember 10%. Don't be short changing the lord. He knows everything. 15% might get you into a gold membership.

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