Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire So, which of the 6 theories of Evolution do you unbelievers believe in?

They could pray to their god(s) to prevent such a catastrophe in the first place . . .



Because modern Christianity is about control and power.

I told you I don't pretend to know either way.

But seems like you want me to invent an opnion
supporting one or the other?

one does not require a "taking sides" opinion to scrutinize Christian claims [as widely varied as
they be within the "church".]

IF there are any Christian claims which you
believe, which ones are they?.. and why do
you take them as being true?

I'm just trying to do what any good christian would do.

Note to johnn:

Faith is not a matter intellect, but a matter of “the heart.” One does not have to be “intelligent” to develop a relationship with Jesus. I personally know some very fine Christian men that would not be thought of as “intelligent.” They are however, thought to be “wise.”

Further, I have heard some say that a man who thinks himself to be “smart” is at a disadvantage when it come to salvation as his pride and ego get in the way. Maybe one would rather be dumb and humble than smart and prideful.

Quite a few teachings on this in the Bible.


Btw.... one does not have to understand how the earth was formed, created or what it is destined for to be saved. It’s a heart matter.... honest seeking, repentant, placing oneself before Jesus.... and asking.

See justified tax collector or thief on the cross.

No, not in the least. There is only One God and you'll burn in hell for not believing in Him.


I pray for your hell bound soul.

Yep, like a little child has the sense to do with a loving father. Why, because HE is a loving FATHER, even if he doesn't "love" HIS like some of them.think HE should.

Of course, those same people do as their little children always want them to, dont they?

If you are the light, I'll happily run to the dark.

Rem, HE didnt say us believers have to be perfect. HE has more leeway than you. HE said ,"See if he be for or against me."

I hope HE doesn't fulfill the fruit of those words.

I am convinced Dr. Kindell is correct when he says the intellectual rejects Jesus for the same reason the garbage man or politician does. They prefer to run their own life instead of submit to a Higher Authority.

Follow on thought:

A little bit melodramatic, but true...here’s the short version.

A young person came to me once. Upset and unhappy that they were not “smart” like the other young folk. Also upset that there were some very real psychiatric issues present that were making life difficult.

I asked this person to think about a poor boy with crippled up legs and in a wheelchair. I asked if when this boy died and went to be with Jesus, if he would still be crippled up. She was aghast and told me No!

So, I asked if the brains that people had were all equal? ......”No, some are smart and some not smart, and some like “me” are goofed up.” Ok, the brain is a physical organ, and your brain like that young boy’s legs will be healed and ok, in heaven. The light came on and there was hope.

Now, some of you will immediately castigate me for giving some kid false hope in something that is not true....and telling them lies. Nope, that is rejected. Search the Scriptures about this.

Also, let me go a step further....... I would not be surprised at all, if in Heaven, we are all “smart.” I expect we will all have the same intellectual capacity. I think it might be this way; on earth, some of us are “5’s” on the intelligence scale. Some of us may be “2’s” ... But in heaven, we will all be “100’s.”

One more and I will quit.... “.....ain’t nobody gonna be ugly in heaven!”

If one were to submit to the Higher Authority.

then theyd believe in accountability.

Now I feel bad for slamming JGRaider. Thanks for sharing

No.

I reject your claims due to a lack of sufficient evidence.

And I bet they will all make great biscuits. Great peach cobbler like Barry and great brisket like KW and Roger, too.

Then I guess there's hope for you yet.

Why not just ZERO in the humbled presence
of a glorified God?

IF it's a matter of the heart as TF49 says,
what need is there for intelligence in a heaven?

What about the Faith of the Muslims, or Hindus, or Shinto's, Buddhist, or Ásatruar. If Faith is a pathway to truth, who can you claim yours is true and theirs is not. Since these faiths are mutually exclusive, how do you tell which one is true?

Yes, there is hope.

Btw, I mentioned this before .. I expect there will be animals, but no death in heaven. At a campfire one night this came up..... when in heaven and hungering for a steak.. What do you do????.. Well, just go on over to the “ribeye tree” and grab one!

What about the bacon wrapped lobster tree and a couple of Valkyries to go with it?

Yep, the lion will lay down with the lamb.

What would heaven be without our dogs?

It will be paradise.