Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire So, which of the 6 theories of Evolution do you unbelievers believe in?

Lots of evidence on Evolution to interpret...study with open eyes and a critical mind.

Not so much on Creation. Closed minds reading an open book.

Unbelievers dont understand why believers dont seek scientific proof as they want.

It's a tenant of Faith, the hingepin of belief and would defy GODS instruction.

Also, if there were proof of Heaven and God, unbelievers would believe and there would be no need for the lake of fire. No unbelievers thrown in the lake of fire would make God a liar.

HE gave us free will to choose. If there was proof, people would believe by evidence and not the free will to choose.

It would be as if HE had coerced them.

Who wants to be in Heaven with those who were coerced or forced to be there.

It would be like the US where those born here get the benefits that essentially are a coercive force to be here. Not good.

Hmmm. So, even if you start from the premise that God was able to create the world, he couldn't have created it in a way that appeared to have evolved? I choose not to underestimate Him.

More likely Evolution is how humans understand how God created this world we live in.

“The governor of Texas, who, when asked if the Bible should also be taught in Spanish, replied that ‘if English was good enough for Jesus, then it’s good enough for me’.”
― Christopher Hitchens

"More likely" doesn't prove a thing. Given the documentary evidence in the totality of the Bible, I'm going with God. I know you have problem with the Old Testament, but I think we do well when we trust God to be God and don't expect his ways to be our ways.

This whole argument is complicated further when I read about Christopher Hitchens life. Very convoluted story. Bisexual left wing intellectual,who on his death his brother, an intellectual himself who believed in the existence of God read a passage from St Paul's Epistle to the Philippians which Christopher had read at their father's funeral.

Be nice to see that.

Headed toward fifty pages.

I wonder if we'll have a consensus by then?

“My own opinion is enough for me, and I claim the right to have it defended against any consensus, any majority, anywhere, any place, any time. And anyone who disagrees with this can pick a number, get in line, and kiss my ass.”
― Christopher Hitchens

TWhere was an intent for a consensus mentioned.

The question was, which theory of evolution presented in the video did unbelievers believe in?

Did you watch the vid...., uh, nevermind.

So your god is a trickster god?

Like I said, this is a misappropriation of science. A theory is either proven, disproven or rejected. Two out of the three means it‘s not a “done deal”. Not by the scientific method, anyway. Evidence can support a disproved or rejected theory. Where are the scientific term enforcers when one of their own is using contradicting terms? My, how the standards are different.


Correct. No argument there. Good thing it doesn’t claim authenticity by the scientific method.



Philosophy is not scientific, nor christianity. Emotional rant. Relevance? None.

"It would have to be his dead ass now."
--ChuckKY

No. He is a father, who loves his children. Much like we are. Do we teach out children calculus when they’re 2 years old? Do we explain the elemental charts at 4? No, because they’re not ready.

Do we thwart their desire to explore by fetching all they may be interested in and place it in their immediate grasp? No.

Do we capitulate to our children when they demand they’re correct? When they think you don’t understand? How about when they have their teenage delusions? No.

Despite all of the knowledge and experience you’ve gained, have you passed it all on to them so they are at your current stage when they’re 18? No.

He is a father and although he is perfect, he didn’t create us as such. Why? I don’t know. I don’t claim to know.

Now, can you produce the missing link between ape and man?

He's a meany because HE gives HIS created in HIS image free will, uh, kinda like most of us do with OUR OWN KIDS.

DUH!

These geniuses are so smart they can figure out all creation but not that we have free will? So they throw up the straw man, "Why does GOD let us screw things up"
Flimsy. Disingenuous. Geniuses who believe in their own selves and yet cant remember what they've been told over and over before.

Sheesh. But yet they are smart enough to tell believers how wrong we are? YGBKM.

First of all, he is your god too, whether you realize it or not. That being said,no he is not a trickster. But he does give every man a choice as to what to believe and do, starting in the Garden of Eden. Without choice there can be no faith and if there is one thing that the Bible makes clear, it's that God wants us to have faith in Him; and more importantly to have faith in Jesus. Absolute proof requires no faith at all; neither does coercion for that matter. So evidence of evolution is certainly out there, but it is far from conclusive and that again is, I think, by design. It's your choice to make. I've made mine. I am no bible scholar, but these are the conclusions I have come to after much consideration.

I'm out until tomorrow. Have good evening, gents.

Where did you ever get the idea that a theory has to be proven or disproved and rejected? Many have been around a very long time.
The theory of evolution has evolved as we learn more and more about the world/cosmos. It is a done deal because it is the theory that science can work with. There is no other path that come close. Darwin’s Theory has stood since 1859.

And Hitchens got it right also.

And once again, you demonstrate that you don't even know the difference between a hypothesis and a theory.

Of the thousands of dieties man has created
to sooth and satisfy himself,
Why is your idea of a diety the one for AS?

B.S argument. According to mainline Christians Beliefs Lucifer knew with absolute certainty that God and Heaven were real, but still exercised his free will against God.

And God sure didn't care about Pharaoh's free will, intentionally hardening his heart to create an excuse for Gods murder of innocent children.